On this episode of the #TheDojo, Kash and Vinyl T from The No Hidden Agenda Podcast step in for Dez and Thabang. The guys kick things of musing on The Dojo events then get things going pondering on the new covid variant, vaccine mandates, why a large number SA'n are antivaxx and if things would ever go back to normal.

The fella's then segue into conversation on work life balance, kids being work place inconveniences and toxic managers.

The guys move on into a conversation on growth, outgrowing SM and societal pressures. They touch on working on relationships, desirability politics, teaching kids confidence and the word "grootman" is broken down.

The fellas round off the pod with a chat on the differences in the career elevation between blacks and whites, Kash enlightens us between the differences between Zimbabwe and South Africa.