Humanity balances between two paths: self-destruction or self-revelation. In this rebroadcast from a popular episode from April 2024, Christine Barrington describes this critical inflection point and argues that dreams awaken us to the realm of purpose and meaning, arguing that every one of us has much to contribute to the path of humanity.

Christine begins with James Braid then outlines the complicated history of science and consciousness including how they got separated in the first place, culminating with the philosophy of positivism which is the belief nothing exists that cannot be verified. She notes in contrast that most of the giants of quantum theory were also mystics including Planck (mentioning his book Where Science is Going) and also Einstein, Schrödinger, Heisenberg, Bohr, and Pauli. On the thread of consciousness,  she quotes Carl Jung and his work on the tension of the opposites and synchronicity, also Jon Kabat-Zinn, Ken Wilbur, and Joe Dispenza and the birth of neurophysiology and mindfulness.

Christine brings it all together talking about Thomas Campbell and his book My Big TOE and his “theory of everything,” which argues that consciousness is the basis for everything and that we are here on this planet to learn and evolve that consciousness, one person at a time. She plays a quote of Campbell’s about how dreaming gives us information about our selves in that how we react in dreams is how we are. As we learn to be more living and present, then our dreams evolve too. Christine ends by sharing information about Thomas Campbell’s organization, the Center for the Unification of Science and Consciousness CUSAC.org.

BIO: Christine Barrington has worked as a psychotherapist and transformational coach and is a seeker who has invested years searching for answers underlying the challenges of human existence. 

Here are links to Christine’s previous Dream Journal shows: https://ksqd.org/dreaming-a-new-future-through-conscious-evolution-with-christine-barrington/ and https://ksqd.org/transformational-dreamwork-with-christine-barrington/

You can listen to a summary of Tom Campbell’s ideas here: https://youtu.be/uEuOGCEmiTg?si=tpp-ekVYiGwfR1I0 and listen to much more on his YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@twcjr44

This show, episode number 307, was broadcast on April 25, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz. It is a replay of a show originally recorded April 27, 2024.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

The Santa Cruz Festival of Dreams is coming October 10-12, 2025! Mark your calendars now. Check our landing page at FestivalofDream.net and FB group page HERE or follow #KeepSantaCruzDreaming on FB and IG.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamj

What kind of dream adventure do you want? Our “People of the Dream” guests, Bill St. Cyr and Sue Scavo, talk about how you can have a conversation with your dreams instead of trying to figure them out. Trauma puts us in a place where we feel trapped, and the dreams restore choice. You get to work with your dreams any way you want to, sharing only the dreams you choose. Every one’s journey is different.

Find our guests at: PeopleoftheDream.com FB, IG, YT @PeopleoftheDream

This show, episode number 306, was recorded during a live broadcast on April 12, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

The IASD international conference is online this year, June 21-25. Find out more and register at IASDconferences.org/2025. Also, the Santa Cruz Festival of Dreams is coming October 10-12, 2025! Mark your calendars now. Check our landing page at FestivalofDream.net and FB group page HERE or follow #KeepSantaCruzDreaming on FB and IG.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

Closed captioning is available on the YouTube version of this podcast and an automatically generated transcript is available at Apple Podcasts.

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Dreams bridge the ordinary and the mystical world. Working with them can be alchemical. Today we welcome special guest poet, dream priestess, and counselor-in-training Alyssa Spungen. Alyssa starts by describing a lucid dream that opened to her the mystery of dreaming in which she was ritually presented with red and black squares. She talks about how difficult it is to express dreams in words and says that’s why she started expressing them in poetry. She talks about the alchemy of dreams and how they hep us recognize our inner mystic. She then talks about how writing poetry helped her get through her depression and after the break shares with us a poem about the seductiveness of depression. We talk about Natural Dreamwork, Embodied Experiential Dreamwork, and synchronicity and take a call from Elizabeth from Bellingham who shares a dream-inspired poem about her own growth and insight.

BIO: Alyssa Spungen is a writer, a dreamer, and a counselor-in-training. She was born and raised in Lake County, Indiana and currently calls the Sonoran Desert home. Her first book of poetry will be published in May by the Phoenix esoteric publishing house White Stag Press. It’s called Spiral Staircase: A Meditation on Alchemy.

Find our guest at: IG @youdreamfish or @alyssaspungen.author

This show, episode number 305, was recorded during a live broadcast on April 5, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

The Santa Cruz Festival of Dreams is coming October 10-12, 2025! Mark your calendars now. Check our landing page at FestivalofDream.net and FB group page HERE or follow #KeepSantaCruzDreaming on FB and IG.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

Closed captioning is available on the YouTube version of this podcast and an automatically generated transcript is available at Apple Podcasts.

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People’s dreams change before their behavior does. Our guests, Codreaming founders Emily Cook and Kyle Napierkowski share evidence from their research including how large databases show that dreams about Donald Trump shifted long before his favorability ratings did. They also talk about how dreams reveal that the concerns of people in their 20s and 30s are foundationally different from older people and the evidence that this is not merely because of their age, but because of generationally changing priorities.

After the break, we take a call from Lee from New York who talks about his 50 years of dream records, and we get into a conversation about demographics and the ethics of dream collection.

BIOS: As an Organizational Psychologist, Emily Cook pioneers integrating psychological science and dream analysis into business strategy. Her research is published in leading academic journals, and her work has been featured in The Independent, Financial Times, and Fox News. Kyle Napierkowski is a leader in ad-tech, AI, and data science, and has created data-driven impact for startups like PagerDuty and for large enterprises like Coca Cola and American Express. He develops methodologies for using dream data to harness creativity and identify consumer trends. He holds degrees in Management and certifications in psychological and coaching modalities.

Find our guests at: CoDreaming.org

This show, episode number 304, was recorded during a live broadcast on March 29, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

The Santa Cruz Festival of Dreams is coming October 10-12, 2025! Mark your calendars now. Check our landing page at FestivalofDream.net and FB group page HERE or follow #keepSantaCruzDreaming on FB and IG.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

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Dreams and death: Do dreams show us what it’ll be like to be dead? Our guest this week is Jenna Farr Ludwig. Jenna starts by describing two death dreams from childhood in one of which she dreamed of her mom falling off a cliff shortly before her mom died in a waking-life car wreck. We talk about pre-diagnosis dreams, dreams before death, visitation dreams, and about how to distinguish death dreams that are related to physical death vs death dreams that signal transformation and growth. We also talk about what dreams may have to say about what it will be like to be dead.

After the break we hear from four listeners. First Lenore from Oakland gives examples of some dreams that have made her less frightened of dying. Then David Jenkins (episode link is below) from Berkeley talks about sequences of visitation dreams and about how they can evolve. Rick Kleffel, DJ radio engineer and music creator, comments that dreams may be a foretaste of death in that they are experiences we have in which the physical body plays little or no role. Third, Dylan calls from Florida to share some of his profound reincarnation dreams. Finally, Ray from Santa Cruz calls to ask about how to talk to loved ones who have passed away.

Authors we talked about included Christopher Kerr, Robert Monroe, Edward Cayce, Carl Jung (Memories, Dreams, and Reflections), and Marie Louise von Franz.

BIO: Jenna Farr Ludwig is a certified dream guide and spiritual mentor with a Master’s of Arts in Transpersonal Studies and over 40 years of experience. Jenna has published poetry and articles in numerous periodicals and is in the process of writing a book about dreams and synchronicities.

Find our guest at: jennafarrludwig.com and jennalludwig.substack.com

This show, episode number 303, was recorded during a live broadcast on March 22, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Similar Dream Journal episodes you might enjoy:

Caring for the Dream Self with David Jenkins, PhD

Death and Lucid Living with Sahlah Dubel

Dreams from the Other Side with Marta Aarli

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

The Santa Cruz Festival of Dreams is coming October 10-12, 2025! Mark your calendars now. Check our landing page at FestivalofDream.net and FB group page HERE or follow #keepSantaCruzDreaming on FB and IG.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

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What big-picture stuff do we miss out on as we work on our dreams one by one? Today’s guest, Laura Hileman, talks about long term dream journaling and how we can use our dream journals to help us review the passing seasons of our lives. She share examples of how she recognized from her dreams that she had cancer long before the doctors diagnosed it. She encourages us to ask our dreams what they are longing for and says she finds it helpful to think of her day and night lives as being all one thing, like the “two” sides of a möbius strip. She then shares some ideas about dreams and spirituality and encourages us to ask what the third grader would say when we find ourselves getting too complicated in our dream analysis.

After the break we take a call from Henny from Ontario CA who has a question about active imagination. Laura suggests that we look at Bob Hoss’s Six Magic Questions. We then take a call from Michelle from TN who asks what we are to make of all the weird composite figures that our dreams send us. We end with Laura giving more specific advice about how to record your dreams with an eye toward long term journaling.

BIO: Laura has been a dreamworker and spiritual director for 25 years.  Trained at the Haden Institute, she’s mentored there and at Wisdom Tree Collective, where her dream course launches in September.  Through her practice Fire by Night Dreamwork, Laura offers online dream groups, private sessions, and workshops on dream integration and spiritual practice.

Find our guest at: FirebyNight.net

This show, episode number 302, was recorded during a live broadcast on March 15, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

Closed captioning is available on the YouTube version of this podcast and an automatically generated transcript is available at Apple Podcasts.

Thanks for being a Dream Journal listener! Available on all major podcast platforms. Rate it, review it, subscribe, and tell your friends.

“Dreams are a doorway to the vast, inclusive world of unconscious images and connections.” So says today’s guest, Dr. Apela Colorado of the Worldwide Indigenous Science Network. Truly a “Woman between the Worlds”, Dr. Colorado promotes an understanding between indigenous and modern world perspectives.

Dr. Colorado starts by setting a ceremonial space using cedar and sacred music and offering an invocation. She describes the way she discovered the Circle of Listening she developed after a chance side trip to the Chartres Cathedral in France. This involves drawing the dreams that are shared, a process called glyphing which is often done by Katrina Arriola who also joined us for the show. Dr. Colorado speaks about how she learned to incorporate multiple ancestral lineages and encourages us to say “a dream came to me” rather than “I had a dream.” Katrina speaks about the importance of the communal experience in dream-sharing.

After the break, we two calls. The first is from Ryan from Philadelphia who had attended one of the Chartres Dreamwork Events and describes how several of the participants had strikingly parallel dreams… all about him! The second call comes from Ellen of Santa Cruz who shares a dream featuring a monkey-like spirit and an old friend from Japan.

BIO: Apela Colorado Ph.D., of Oneida-Gaul ancestry, has dedicated her life’s work to bridge Western thought and indigenous worldviews. In 1989, she founded the Worldwide Indigenous Science Network which aims to (1) foster the revitalization, growth, and worldwide exchange of traditional knowledge, (2) safeguard the lives and work of the world’s endangered indigenous culture practitioners, and (3) develop an interface with Western science. She has authored numerous scholarly articles on Indigenous Science and recently published, “Woman Between the Worlds: A Call to Your Ancestral and Indigenous Wisdom”

Find our guest at: WISN.org, FB: @apela.colorado and @WorldwideIndigenousScienceNetwork

This show, episode number 301, was recorded during a live broadcast on March 8, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday

In this special 300th episode of the Dream Journal, meet Toko-Pa Turner, a woman who has a wealth of experience helping people learn to court the wisdom of their dreams. She speaks about how “The Dreaming Way” is our natural heritage and provides inner guidance. She emphasizes that dreams and the imagination are as real as waking life and encourages us to live in the magic of not-knowing.

BIO: Toko-pa Turner is a Canadian author and internationally celebrated dreamworker. Her first book, Belonging: Remembering Ourselves Home, has been translated into ten languages and won awards in 2017 and 2018. Her new book The Dreaming Way: Courting the Wisdom of Dreams has been called “remarkable” by mythologist Michael Meade, and “exquisitely written” by Jungian analyst Anne Baring.

The full video of the YouTube conversation is available @ExperientialDreamwork at https://youtu.be/wJE2HJGIW9c

Find our guest at: Toko-Pa.com and substack.com/@tokopa

This show, episode number 300, was recorded on February 24 and broadcast on March 1, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

Closed captioning is available on the YouTube version of this podcast and an automatically generated transcript is available at Apple Podcasts.

Thanks for being a Dream Journal listener! Available on all major podcast platforms. Rate it, review it, subscribe, and tell your friends.

As we approach the 300th episode of the Dream Journal, I invite five dream experts to talk about their various approaches to dreamwork. All six will be presenters at the all-day in person IASD regional conference on March 1, 2025 in Whittier, California.

Guests are conference host Geoff Nelson who talks about the spirituality of dreaming, Lauren Schneider (dreamsandtarotpy.com) who describes her collective approach and her process of using tarot cards which she calls Tarotpy, Kelly Sullivan Walden (dreamifesting.com) who speaks about her experience of being evacuated during the recent LA fires and also about her process of incubating dreams for maximal waking-life manifestation, Marilyn Manzi (dreamsomatix.com) who focuses on dreaming as medicine and also finding pleasure in them, Walter Berry (drawnintothedream.com) who describes the value of drawing dream moments, and finally host, Katherine Bell, (ExperientialDreamwork.com) who describes her treasure hunt approach to dream exploration and drops hints about her in-progress book.

After the break we take two calls. The first is from Emily and Kyle in El Sobrante. Kyle shares a dream about someone having an interview, and we take turns offering “If it were my dream…” insights from our various perspectives. Emily and Kyle also describe their work on using a massive dataset of dreams to predict public opinion which can be found at codreaming.org. We take a second call from Emily from Soquel who describes a dream about the joy of feeling healed from a waking life knee injury.

Whittier conference details and registration can be found at ASDreams.org/regionals/. Find out more about the International Association for the Study of Dreams June 21-25 online conference at IASDconferences.org/2025/. Also, the 2025 Santa Cruz IASD regional will be October 10-12, 2025 at the Museum of Art and History at FestivalofDreams.net. Contact me to get on the mailing list to be informed about these and many other upcoming dream-related offerings.

This show, episode number 299, was recorded during a live broadcast on February 22, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

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Founder of the Radical Resistance Institute, our guest today is Victor Lee Lewis. He brings a unique, socially progressive vision to the work of personal growth, personal empowerment, and emotional health. An early advocate of Jeremey Taylor, he is also profoundly influenced by his dreams. Victor starts by telling how a dream he had in the early 1980s woke him up to the need to radically remake his life. He sees dreams as a realm of oneness and says that dream groups are an ideal forum for bringing people together. We talk about about the idea of imaginal cells and also about how neuro-divergent people have the kind of “out of the box” thinking that we are in need of right now.

After the break, we take call from Jenny from Santa Cruz in which she shares a dream that a friend sent her which highlights spiritual vs political action. Max asks Victor what to say to young people who are neuro divergent. We also take a call from Ray from Santa Cruz who has some further reflections on Jenny’s dream. Victor ends by talking about his passion for human liberation.

Contact info: FB @VictorLeeLewis, or email me and I will get you in touch.

This show, episode number 298, was recorded during a live broadcast on February 15, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB and IG @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

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The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms released the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

Closed captioning is available on the YouTube version of this podcast and an automatically generated transcript is available at Apple Podcasts.

Thanks for being a Dream Journal listener! Available on all major podcast platforms. Rate it, review it, subscribe, and tell your friends.