Seth Troxler is back in Ibiza… in his parents’ living room… interviewing one of the most in-demand artists on the planet - Felipe Pantone - who you’ll quickly come to learn does not show his face on camera.

Bill isn’t on set this time (he’s injured… more on that soon), but he is chiming in with his usual chaotic voice-overs and making sure Seth’s ego doesn’t get too comfortable.

In this episode, Seth and Felipe go deep on:

• Growing up between Argentina and Spain and getting obsessed with graffiti

• Immigrant parents who just wanted their kids to “get a real degree”

• Art school, learning “the rules,” and then wanting to burn the whole system down

• How Felipe went from graffiti writer to painting 25-story murals and showing in major galleries

• Why he hides his face and lets the work speak for itself

• Why the traditional gallery model and art-world gatekeeping are about to collapse

• NFTs, AI tools like Suno, and why the future of art is ideas over technique
  
  
• Selling out vs. surviving -  in both the music industry and the art world

• Counterculture in the age of Trump and Taylor Swift, and why bad politics often make incredible art

• Burning Man disasters, getting “in the shit,” and why some people thrive when everything goes wrong

• Losing friends, surviving jail in Tokyo, and using rock bottom as a turning point

• Raving as a spiritual practice and why parties show us the best version of people

Along the way, they talk Virgil Abloh, Dali as a character vs Dali as a painter, living in a former fascist house turned utopian artist commune in Valencia, and what it means to raise kids who might still be alive in 2100. And yes, there’s a Magic 8 Ball and a fart in the cold open.

Felipe Pantone is a graffiti artist, muralist, and contemporary artist known for massive kinetic murals, retro-futuristic gradients, and anonymous appearances. Keep up with him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/felipepantone/?hl=en

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Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle