Dr. Ulcca Joshi Hansen is an author, consultant,  founder of Educating Potential, and currently Chief Program Officer at Grantmakers for Education. Her work is aimed at changing the dialogue about education in America. Her conversation with Rod and Jal covers a lot of topics including: what different kinds of teaching and learning look like; why we need to move past endless debates and focus more on root issues that need to be addressed; defining both "Cartesian-Newtonian" and "Holistic-Indigenous" world views and how each plays a role in our education systems; how it is easy to admit all kids are not the same, but it isn't easy to develop schools that can cater to that; what it means to want our children to be the best for the world, not the best in the world; hope in the form of amazing teachers and schools that are moving the needle; and bonus responses during the lightning round! 

Check out Ulcca's book: The Future of Smart

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