In this episode Cally talks to broadcaster Katie Derham about the piano, conducting, laser surgery, Brazil, parenting, perfectionism, people pleasing, Strictly and the Proms.

Twitter: @thekatiederham

Instagram: @thekatiederham

Katie’s BBC Radio 4 Inheritance Tracks

BBC Proms

Peanut and Crumb

Cally’s Scala Radio show

Tickets for NMF Live at London’s Cheerful Earful Podcast festival

More about Cally

Instagram: @callybeatoncomedian

Twitter: @callybeaton

Produced by Mike Hanson and Kourosh Adhamy for Pod People Productions

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Instagram: @podpeopleuk

Music by Jake Yapp

Cover Art by Jaijo Design

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