This special episode features a clip from Chef André Natera’s recent appearance on the Say Grace Podcast with Steve Palmer.

In this conversation, André reflects on:

• The emotional demands of leadership

• Creating safe, growth-oriented kitchen environments

• What chefs rarely talk about—but should

For the full episode, visit the Say Grace Podcast with Steve Palmer and hear the complete conversation.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3T3sct3sNp6PRAvgVvidqP?si=333d3eaf21164d2b