What if the cultural chaos we’re witnessing isn’t just political or social—but a visible sign of ancient, unseen spiritual forces at work?

In this riveting episode, Catherine welcomes back New York Times bestselling author and esteemed spiritual leader Jonathan Cahn. Known for his prophetic insight and viral teachings, Jonathan brings parents face-to-face with revelations from his explosive new book, The Avatar: The Return of the Ancients and the Future of America.

With global headlines swirling—hostage releases in the Middle East, political shake-ups at home—Jonathan argues that these events are rooted in spiritual battles dating back thousands of years. He takes listeners on a journey through scripture and current history, demonstrating that ancient “gods” and principalities are reclaiming influence in our modern world, often in ways that fly under the radar of the Western mind.

Key insights from the episode:

• The spiritual war behind the headlines: Jonathan unpacks how events like the October 7 attacks in Israel and miraculous hostage returns are spiritual manifestations, echoing patterns seen throughout biblical history.
• America’s spiritual crossroads: Drawing from The Return of the Gods, Jonathan reveals the “dark trinity” of Baal, Ashtoreth/Ishtar, and Molech—ancient entities driving materialism, sexual confusion, and the destruction of life in today’s society.
• The avatar phenomenon: Through spellbinding personal anecdotes from India, Cuba, and Africa, Jonathan explains how avatars—human embodiments of these ancient spirits—are still being worshipped globally, and how this practice is stealthily influencing Western cultures and politics.
• Surprising connections in U.S. leadership: Catherine and Jonathan dive into uncanny parallels between political figures (including Kamala Harris and Donald Trump) and ancient gods and biblical leaders, even uncovering astonishing links between their birthdates and sacred calendar readings.
• The warning and the call: While God sometimes uses unlikely leaders (the "Jehu" template) to roll back spiritual darkness, ultimate hope for America rests not in politicians but in a nationwide revival—a return to the worship of the one true God, starting in our homes and families.

Notable moments:

• Jonathan’s miraculous encounters with spiritual warfare overseas and their effect on communities.
• Catherine’s research into how avatars are selected and worshipped in modern cultures—and the resulting persecution of Christians and Jews.
• The uncanny timing of U.S. leaders’ births with ancient holy days and scriptural readings.

As Jonathan cautions: “If we change the government, but we don’t change the hearts of the people, the unchanged hearts are going to change the government back... The only thing that can save America is revival.”

About the guest:

Jonathan Cahn has been named along with Billy Graham as one of the top spiritual leaders to have radically impacted our world in modern times.  He has spoken at the United Nations, on Capitol Hill, to Members of Congress, and to millions around the world. Every one of his books, starting with The Harbinger to The Dragon’s Prophecy, has become a New York Times Bestseller. He is recognized as a prophetic voice for our times. His teachings and prophetic messages on YouTube have received over 100 million views. He leads Beth Israel at the Jerusalem Center in Wayne, New Jersey — and Hope of the World ministry, a world outreach of God’s word and compassion to the world’s most needy. Learn more at https://www.hopeoftheworld.org/.  

For Christian parents:
Are you equipping your children to recognize and stand firm in the real spiritual battle behind today’s headlines?

Consider how you’re fostering discernment, spiritual awareness, and an unshakeable faith in your home. What steps can you take to invite revival—in your family, your church, and your community?

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