In this episode, Bryan and Layne show why the Holy Spirit isn’t a reward you earn or a feeling you chase—but God’s personal presence given to everyone who trusts in the real Jesus.

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How the Holy Spirit Works Personally (and Why Mormonism Leaves People Unsure)

In the last episode, we talked about how a biblical church doesn’t need one “capital P” Prophet to speak for God. Jesus didn’t set up His church to be led by a single man with exclusive access to heaven’s messages. Instead, the book of Acts shows something radically different: God gives His Holy Spirit to every believer, revealing truth through Scripture and confirming it through the people of God.

But here’s the question that hits closer to home: How does the Holy Spirit work on a personal level?

That’s where this conversation gets especially helpful—because Layne lived for 40 years inside Mormonism, where the Holy Spirit is often treated like something you earn, maintain, or even lose. And if you grew up LDS, you know the anxiety: Do I have the Holy Ghost? Did I lose it? Am I worthy enough today?

The “Holy Ghost” in Mormonism: A Gift You’re Never Quite Sure You Have

In Mormon teaching, people are told about the “gift of the Holy Ghost,” along with ideas like “confirmations,” “warm feelings,” and the famous “burning in the bosom.” It’s often described as something that comes after baptism, through priesthood hands, and after ongoing obedience and ordinances.

But here’s the problem: many Latter-day Saints live with what Layne calls Holy Spirit insecurity.

You might feel something during prayer or a testimony meeting—then you mess up later and wonder if God is gone. The whole cycle can become spiritually exhausting, emotionally draining, and mentally confusing. Instead of a steady relationship with God, you’re chasing a spiritual signal that feels like it comes and goes.

The Holy Spirit Is a “He,” Not an “It”

One of the practical moments in this episode is when the guys stop and talk about pronouns—because it reveals something deeper.

In biblical Christianity, the Holy Spirit isn’t an impersonal force. He is a person. Not a “thing” or “energy” or “vibe.” He has personhood. That’s why Christians speak of Him as “He,” not because the Spirit has a gender, but because He’s personal—God Himself dwelling in believers.

Mormonism may technically describe the Holy Ghost as a person, but it’s within a very different framework: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as separate beings (and functionally separate gods). That changes everything. Instead of God’s direct presence, the Holy Ghost becomes more like a messenger—someone sent—while leaving people unsure what God the Father is doing, and unsure whether they can really trust what they’re experiencing.

Feelings vs. Fruit: What Are You Actually Chasing?

A big “aha” in this conversation is how Mormon “spiritual feelings” often function differently than Christian worship and discipleship.

In many Christian settings, feelings can be part of worship—people may feel deeply connected to God. But in Mormonism, the emotional goal often shifts toward something else:

1. Feeling affirmed that the church is true
2. Feeling confirmed that Joseph Smith was a prophet
3. Feeling validated that “we can’t all be wrong”
4. Feeling like you made the right choice by staying loyal

Layne describes how testimony meetings can become an emotional loop where everyone repeats the same ideas in a “vanilla” way, and the shared group emotion becomes “evidence.” It turns subjective, and over time, it trains people not only how to think—but how to feel.

And if you’re not feeling it? You hide it. You fake it. You wonder what’s wrong with you.

That’s not the freedom Jesus offers.

The Bible’s Answer: You Receive the Holy Spirit When You Believe

Here’s the clearest contrast of the entire episode:

In the Bible, the Holy Spirit is not earned. He is received.

Jesus promises that those who believe will receive the Spirit:

1. John 7:38–39 explains that the “living water” Jesus offers is the Holy Spirit, given to everyone who believes.
2. Galatians 3:2 says believers receive the Spirit by faith, not by works.
3. Ephesians 1:13 says when you believed in Christ, you were marked as God’s own by the promised Holy Spirit.

That means you don’t have to wonder every day whether you “still have Him.” You don’t have to earn His presence with performance. When you trust Jesus—the Jesus of the Bible—God seals you as His own.

And that leads to an important (and challenging) statement: Mormonism offers counterfeits—of Jesus, the gospel, and the Holy Spirit. The goal of this episode isn’t to help people “fake it better.” It’s to call people to the real Christ and the real Spirit.

The Spirit’s Main Job: Glorify Jesus

John 16:13–14 makes it clear: the Holy Spirit guides believers into truth, and that truth centers on one thing—glorifying Jesus.

That becomes a diagnostic question:

Is “the Spirit” you’re following pointing you to a prophet—or pointing you to Christ?

If your spiritual experiences consistently push you toward trusting a man, a system, or an institution as the ultimate authority, that should raise red flags. The Holy Spirit’s mission is to make Christ clearer, not to make a prophet central.

Transformation Is the Evidence

Layne ends with five “fruit checks”—not to prove you have the Spirit (faith in Jesus settles that), but to show what the Spirit produces over time:

1. Love for God’s Word and truth
2. Conviction of sin and repentance without shame
3. Joy and peace not dependent on circumstances
4. Christlike character (the fruit of the Spirit)
5. Dependence on Christ instead of earning God’s favor

The real evidence isn’t a momentary feeling—it’s long-term transformation.

And that’s good news: because even when you don’t “feel” spiritual, you can still trust God’s promises. Faith isn’t following emotions. Faith is trusting the Word of God—and the Spirit uses that truth to change you from the inside out.