Rafael and Kirk talk to former HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan about catastrophe as a driver of solutions to the housing problem, touching on Superstorm Sandy, the subprime mortgage crisis, and the decline of public housing. Also, are housing abundance and resilience in conflict or compatible?

Rafael and Kirk talk to Vishaan Chakrabarti, founder of the Practice for Architecture and Urbanism, about supply and demand denialism, the weaponization of Jane Jacobs' legacy, and how to add housing when a city is "full."

Rafael and Kirk talk to NFL safety turned real estate developer Jamar Adams - founder and managing principal of Essence Development - about his journey from the gridiron to the board room and the challenge of breaking into the development world as a person of color. Also, public-private partnerships as a tool for improving public housing, pragmatism vs. purity tests, and cities that are making housing development easier.

Rafael and Kirk talk to Gregg Colburn, PhD - author and professor of housing and urban development at the University of Washington - about his book "Homelessness is a Housing Problem: How Structural Problems Explain U.S. Patterns," NYC's right to shelter, and why homelessness rates are actually lower where poverty rates are higher.

On the eve of a potential long-awaited housing deal between New York's Governor and Legislature, Rafael and Kirk talk to Jeff Blau, chief executive of Related Companies, about some of the most fiercely debated housing policies, including tax incentives for developers and tenant protections. Also, can market-rate housing and office buildings help address the affordability problem?

It doesn't add up. Rafael and Kirk talk to Eric Enderlin, president of the NYC Housing Development Corporation, about the brutal math of building affordable housing. Plus, public housing, the lopsided financial benefits of homeownership, single-room occupancy (SRO) units, and the obstacles to filling vacant housing.

Madam Speaker. Rafael and Kirk have a wide-ranging discussion with New York City Council Speaker Adrienne Adams about her approach to getting her members to yes on rezonings, her Fair Housing Framework, rental assistance vouchers, homeownership, accessory dwelling units, and Jamaica, Queens as a laboratory for solutions to the housing problem.

The canary in the coalmine. Rafael and Kirk talk to Nolan Gray - author and research director at CA YIMBY - about California's efforts to tackle the housing problem, the growing YIMBY movement, accessory dwelling units, missing middle housing, and his book Arbitrary Lines: How Zoning Broke the American City and How to Fix It.

Is New York a City of Yes? Rafael and Kirk talk to NYC Director of City Planning Dan Garodnick about saving StuyTown, gentrification, member deference, and the Adams Administration's plan to address the housing problem.

Rafael and Kirk kick off season 3 by talking to the former Mayor-turned-Cabinet Secretary about his journey from San Antonio, Texas to Washington, DC. Secretary Castro shares his national perspective on the housing problem and lessons learned from cities and towns across the country.