Icon carver and Symbolic World YouTuber and podcaster Jonathan Pageau joins Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick to talk about the patterns of reality, how the world really works and what’s wrong with it, and the inevitability of re-enchantment. Along the way they talk about whether the sun really rises and sets, Santa Claus, Kanye West, Jordan Peterson and the truth about angels and demons. (Part 2 of 2)