In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, host Jenni Wong Clayville interviews Dr. Chesarae Fletcher about the importance of Sabbath, rest, and community for women of color and church leaders.

They explore practical ways to incorporate Sabbath into daily life, the theological significance of rest, and the power of sisterhood in healing and renewal.

They also discuss the anthology: Sabbath with My Sisters an Anthology: Women Reflecting on God’s Rest in a Restless World.

🎬 Video Chapters

0:00 - An Introduction of Dr. Chesarea Fletcher

02:21 - The Birth of Sabbath with My Sisters

05:32 - The Central Invitation of the Book

06:58 - Rest as Formation, Not Escape

10:10 - Practical Steps to Rest

12:25 - The Importance of Communal Rest

17:27 - Personal Significance of Rest

24:29 - The Process of Creating the Anthology

27:11 - Upcoming Rest Retreat

30:30 - Encouragement for Exhausted Listeners

📚 Resources Mentioned:

Sabbath with my Sisters Book - https://www.amazon.com/Sabbath-My-Sisters-Anthology-Reflecting/dp/B0GVPVMNF8/

Sabbath Retreats and Resources - https://sabbathwithmysisters.com

Win a free copy of Sabbath with My Sisters or share your story with Dr. Chesarea Fletcher at [email protected]

Jenni Wong Clayville - https://www.bettertogether.tv/our-guests/jenni-wong-clayville

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In this video, child and adolescent psychiatrist Dr. Philip Hash discusses the importance of creating inclusive church environments. He shares insights on how to embrace neurodiversity. Dr. Hash emphasizes that the desire for relationships and joy is present in everyone, even if the pathways to get there differ.

Dr. Hash's work at Valley Church in Ohio highlights the need for church community engagement. By focusing on engaging neurodivergent learners, his ministry uses role-playing games (RPGs) to foster connections. This approach not only aids in personal development but also integrates RPGs and Christian discipleship, offering a unique way to explore faith.

The initiative, known as Dragon Games, started with a small group and has expanded internationally. It demonstrates how RPGs and Christian discipleship can be powerful tools for engaging neurodivergent learners. The program encourages participants to discover their stories within God's narrative, promoting church community engagement.

Discover how to:

Embrace neurodiversity as a normal part of church life.

Utilize RPGs to enhance Christian discipleship.

Focus on engaging neurodivergent learners through innovative methods.

Promote church community engagement by including all members.

Practical steps include creating spaces where neurodivergent individuals feel welcome. This involves understanding their unique needs and integrating them into church activities.

Summary

In this episode, Dr. Philip Hash discusses the importance of embracing neurodiversity within church environments, likening it to accommodating physical disabilities. He shares insights from his ministry at Valley Church, where role-playing games help neurodivergent youth explore their identities and build relationships

🎬 Video Chapters

0:00 Understanding Neurodiversity in Church

3:06 Dr. Philip Hash's Background

6:12 Origins of the Valley Church Ministry

9:18 Role-Playing Games for Therapy

12:24 Expanding the Ministry Globally

15:30 Embracing Neurodiverse Individuals

📚 Resources Mentioned:

Dr. Phillip Hash : https://www.joydragon.co/meet-dr-phillip/

Joy Dragon Role Playing Game: https://www.joydragon.co/

Eric Bryant's Website: ⁠https://www.ericbryant.org⁠

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In a culture chasing the next big church model, what if the secret to growth is getting back to the basics?

After 20+ years of faithful ministry in South Arlington, Dr. Maurice Pugh has seen God double New Life Fellowship's attendance since COVID — adding one new service every year — simply by trusting Jesus with the results.

Maurice Pugh and Eric Bryant explore what it looks like to build a thriving, multiplying church on sound doctrine, authentic community, and Spirit-led faithfulness. From micro-group discipleship to city-wide outreach, Maurice shares the rhythms and convictions that are producing real, lasting fruit.

This conversation is a timely encouragement for every pastor who is tempted to measure success by size alone.

Summary:
The church grows when pastors stop striving and start trusting. Maurice shares how returning to Christology, the Trinity, and sound biblical teaching is drawing people into genuine faith. His two-year micro-group discipleship model is on track to multiply 1,500 disciple-makers, and his personal rhythms of rest have sustained him for the long haul.

🎬 Video Chapters
00:00 - Celebrating Growth and Resilience in Ministry

03:40 - The Importance of Sound Doctrine

06:31 - Building Community Through Small Groups

09:07 - Maintaining Healthy Rhythms in Ministry

11:59 - Investing in Staff and Leadership Development

14:47 - Serving the Community and Loving Your Neighbor

17:30 - Miraculous Provision and Future Vision

19:59 - Encouragement for Struggling Pastors

Conclusion:
Whether you're leading a church of 50 or 5,000, Maurice's story is a reminder that Jesus said He would build His church. Your job is faithfulness. Join us and be encouraged to plant, trust, and let God bring the increase.

📚 Resources Mentioned:
Maurice Pugh & New Life Fellowship: https://newlifefellowship.org
Eric Bryant's Website: https://www.ericbryant.org

Leading on Empty by Wayne Cordeiro

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Join us for an insightful conversation where Filipe and Mandy Santos of Echo Church in the Bay Area interview John Ortberg and they explore spiritual formation, the origins of the 12-step program, and its relevance for church leaders today.

Discover practical wisdom on character, vulnerability, and leveraging technology in a polarized culture.

Spiritual formation is not just about personal growth; it’s about leading others into a transformative relationship with God.

John emphasizes that this process is essential for effective church leadership today. In a world filled with polarization and contempt, fostering a community centered on the teachings of Jesus is more crucial than ever.

Ortberg notes, "The greatest opportunity ever offered to the human race is life in God's presence with friendship and guidance."

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Key Insights:

00:00 - Introduction to John Ortberg

03:24 - The Journey of Faith and Ministry

09:35 - Understanding the 12 Steps and Spiritual Formation

19:53 - The Importance of Character in Leadership

26:06 - Vulnerability and Accountability in Leadership

31:49 - Navigating Technology and Community in the Church

Resources Mentioned:

• Become New with John Ortberg
• Steps by John Ortberg
• Andy Crouch's writings on technology
• Dallas Willard's works
• Echo Church in the Bay Area of CA
• Filipe and Mandy Santos

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Are you feeling called to start something new? Discover the transformative journey of how to start a house church and create a community that thrives on faith and fellowship. Starting a house church can be a rewarding experience, offering a unique opportunity to connect with others on a deeper level.

In this video, Jesse Reeves of King's Porch, explores the essential steps and considerations for establishing your own house church. From understanding the core principles to practical church outreach ideas.

Jesse Reeves - award-winning songwriter ("Speak Jesus") and worship leader - shares his radical shift from touring with Chris Tomlin to the front lines of a house church movement.

After years on staff at Passion City and The Austin Stone, Jesse took a God-ordained "sabbatical" that led him to a startling realization: We have more Christian resources than ever, yet fewer people coming to know Christ.

Discover the rhythm of King’s Porch, where the "Jesus Stories" practice turned awkward silence into a culture of evangelism.

Jesse breaks down the history of the "clergy-laity divide" and explains why every Christian - from realtors to car salesmen - is called to be a royal priest in their own neighborhood. Learn how a small network of house churches is giving away hundreds of thousands of dollars to global missions by living simply and following the Book of Acts.

It’s time to elevate your priesthood!

Key Insights:

04:36 – The One-Year Fast: Why Jesse’s wife told him he had to quit church to find Jesus again.

05:34 – Acts 2:42 vs. Modern Metrics: Re-evaluating why we do what we do if it isn't working.

10:58 – A Warning from Francis Chan: "You can't start a church out of bitterness or anger."

11:28 – The Lost Priesthood: How 1 Peter 2:10 changes your 9-to-5 job into a ministry.

15:11 – The Edict of Milan: How Constantine unintentionally stalled the wildfire of the early church.

16:59 – 1 Corinthians 14 Gathering: What happens when everyone brings a word, not just a priest.

18:07 – Jesus Stories: The "awkward" 3-month experiment that birthed a culture of sharing faith.

19:41 – The Origin of "I Speak Jesus": How a house church movement inspired a global worship anthem.

31:15 – Radical Giving: How a church with zero staff salaries gave away nearly $400k to missions.

Resources Mentioned:

The Forgotten Ways by Alan Hirsch

Letters to the Church by Francis Chan

We Are Church Training: https://www.wearechurch.com/

King’s Porch Website: https://www.kingsporch.com/

Eric Bryant's Website: https://www.ericbryant.org

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Discover the most effective ways to engage a community with church outreach ideas. Whether you're part of a small congregation or a large ministry, these strategies will help you connect meaningfully with your community. Join us as we explore innovative approaches that have proven successful in various settings.

In this video, Jeff Brodie, the lead pastor of Connexus Church in Toronto shares innovative methods that have inspired many to rethink traditional outreach strategies and embrace new ways of connecting with people. By focusing on authentic relationships and genuine interactions, you can make a lasting impact in your community. Learn how to create an inviting atmosphere that encourages participation and fosters a sense of belonging.

Jeff also shares about the remarkably smooth transition to the lead role from the founding pastor, Carey Nieuwhof.

Utilize social media platforms to reach a broader audience.Host community events that cater to diverse interests.

Encourage volunteerism to foster a sense of purpose and belonging.

Develop small groups to build deeper connections.

By implementing the most effective ways to engage a community, your church can become a beacon of hope and support.

These strategies not only enhance community involvement but also strengthen the bonds within your congregation.

Summary:"So it's community, then encountering God in an accessible way. I think in the attractional days, we were so worried about the weird that we pushed away from the weird to the point we lost the wonder of it all. The wonder disappeared and we got so focused on the imminent that we missed the transcendent."

🎬 Video Chapters

0:00 - Community and Encounter Focus

4:15 - Rise of Spiritual Curiosity

8:30 - Navigating Cultural Polarization

12:45 - Post-Christian to Pre-Christian Transition

17:00 - Generational Curiosity and Engagement

21:15 - Timeless Truth and Community Needs

25:30 - Innovative Church Practices Post-Pandemic

29:45 - From Attractional to Invitational Church

Conclusion

Embrace these church outreach ideas to transform your community engagement. Start today and witness the positive changes in your church and beyond.

Resources Mentioned:

Connexus Church Website: https://connexuschurch.com/

Eric Bryant’s Website: https://www.ericbryant.org

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In today's rapidly changing world, understanding the trends in church attendance is crucial for effective Christian leadership. As society evolves, so do the dynamics of faith communities, and leaders must adapt to these shifts to remain relevant and impactful.

Carey Nieuwhof and Eric Bryant explore the future of the church in the context of modern challenges and opportunities. With the rise of AI disruption, many wonder how technology will reshape religious practices and community engagement. The potential for AI to influence church operations and outreach is immense, yet it also presents unique challenges that require thoughtful navigation.

The interview delves into how Christian leadership can harness these changes to foster deeper connections and spiritual growth. By examining current trends in church attendance, we aim to provide insights that help leaders anticipate and respond to the evolving needs of their congregations.

Summary:

The church's future direction is human connection. I think the world is gonna be so profoundly disrupted. The disruption AI brings is going to be 10 times bigger than the industrial revolution and 10 times faster. So you don't even know what happened and all of a sudden you're there. Bad times for the world can be good times for the church.

🎬 Video Chapters

00:00 Trends in Church Leadership

03:47 The Impact of AI on Ministry

06:39 Human Connection in a Digital Age

09:34 Building Community and Discipleship

15:18 Effective Leadership Practices

21:03 Preventing Burnout in Ministry

Conclusion:

Join us as we explore these pivotal topics and consider how you can contribute to shaping the future of the church. Your engagement and insights are vital as we navigate this transformative era together.

📚 Resources Mentioned:

Carey Nieuwhof's Website and Resources: https://careynieuwhof.com/

Eric Bryant’s Website: https://www.ericbryant.org

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Discovering How to Experience God's Presence

In today's fast-paced world, many are searching for deeper meaning and connection. This video explores how to experience God's presence in everyday life, offering insights into the intersection of faith and culture.

Join us as we delve into the power of the word and its transformative impact on our lives. Our guest, Dr. Nijay Gupta, shares his perspective on current trends in Christianity and the spiritual hunger evident in today's society.

Understanding Faith and Culture

The relationship between faith and culture is complex yet enriching. As we navigate through societal changes, understanding this dynamic can help us live more fulfilling lives. Dr. Gupta discusses how the gospel's holiness can transform the world into a place of beauty, goodness, truth, and love.

Explore the concept of "holy worldliness" and its implications for modern believers.

Learn how young people are engaging with their faith in new and exciting ways.

Discover how the Bible can be a guide in these turbulent times.

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🎬 Video Chapters

0:00 - Reclaiming the World Spiritually

3:49 - Current Trends in Faith

7:38 - Youthful Spiritual Revival

11:27 - Applying Scripture to Life15:16 - Holy Worldliness Concept

19:05 - Bonhoeffer's Worldliness Perspective

22:54 - Paul's Vision for Christian Life

26:43 - Challenging Common Frameworks

Summary:

Understanding how to experience God's presence involves embracing both faith and culture. By recognizing the power of the word, we can navigate the current trends in Christianity and find deeper spiritual fulfillment. This video offers a fresh perspective on living a life of faith in today's world.

📚 Resources Mentioned:

Paul for the World: A Grounded Vision for Finding Meaning in This Life - Not Just the Next by Dr. Nijay Gupta

Engaging Scripture Substack: https://nijaykgupta.substack.com/

Eric Bryant’s Website: https://www.ericbryant.org

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What if our misunderstanding of forgiveness is actually causing more harm than good?

In this profound episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, host Dr. Eric Bryant welcomes back world-renowned apologist and advocate Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing. Together, they tackle one of the most weaponized and misunderstood topics in the modern church: Forgiveness.

Dr. Orr-Ewing shares insights from her new book, Forgiveness: Reclaiming Its Power in a Culture of Outrage and Fear. She addresses the "identity politics" of grievance, the rise of "cancel culture," and—most importantly—how the church has often used the teaching of forgiveness to silence victims of abuse. This isn't just a theological discussion; it's a vital framework for leaders who want to lead with both uncompromising grace and unwavering justice.

It’s time to stop minimizing harm and start discovering the cosmic power of the Cross to satisfy our deep hunger for justice.

💡 Key Insights:

01:29 – The "Quiet Revival?": Why young people are increasingly drawn to high-conviction and liturgical forms of faith.

03:23 – Shaking the Church: Why God is uncovering deep sin in leadership and why repentance is the only way forward

.06:16 – Forgiveness vs. Power: How the culture derives power from grievance, and why forgiveness is often seen as "moral weakness."

08:26 – Weaponized Forgiveness: Recognizing when "you just need to forgive" is used as a tool to enable abusers and silence victims.

08:54 – The Sacred Image: Why harm done to a human being is a cosmic offense that requires a cosmic sacrifice.

10:13 – Cancel Culture vs. The Gospel: How the Cross satisfies the desire for justice that cancel culture often gets wrong.

13:00 – Four Models of Forgiveness: Evaluating different church practices and identifying the "New Testament Model."

15:44 – The Escrow Analogy: Understanding how you can truly forgive someone while still waiting for the "transaction" of reconciliation.

20:01 – Turning the Other Cheek: Why Jesus was actually teaching a form of dignified resistance, not encouraging people to be "doormats."

22:13 – Trinity and the Cross: A deep dive into how a God who is love can also be a God of righteous judgment.

📚 Resources Mentioned:

Forgiveness: Reclaiming Its Power in a Culture of Outrage and Fear by Amy Orr-Ewing

Innovative Church Leaders Website: https://www.innovativechurchleaders.org

Eric Bryant’s Website: https://www.ericbryant.org

Amy Orr-Ewing’s Official Website: https://www.amyorr-ewing.com

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What if the "success" of growing a large church is actually hiding a shallow reality of disciple-making?

In this catalytic conversation, David Putman - author of Detox for the Overly Religious and founder of Planting the Gospel - shares the "divine encounter" that forced him to stop measuring the crowd and start measuring the kingdom.

After growing a church to 2,500 people, David realized that while the church was big, the discipleship was thin.

Discover the 5-3-2 Framework, an "operating system" for the church that moved from one pastor to generational disciple-making in 46 cities across five countries. Learn how to transition from "programming" your church to "releasing" a movement, why three is the perfect number for transformation, and how to use the "S.O.W.I.N.G." method to turn daily scripture reading into an external mission.It’s time to move the cookies to the bottom shelf.

Stop discipling for information and start actually making disciples of Jesus.

Key Insights:

03:46 – The Divine Encounter: When the Holy Spirit asks, "You believe, but will you follow?"

05:42 – The 2020 Pivot: Creating the simplest disciple-making tool for a "rebooting" pastor.

08:25 – Defining a Disciple: Learning to live like Him, love like Him, and leave what He left behind.

09:41 – The 5-3-2 Framework: Breaking down the 5 principles, 3 relationships, and 2 rhythms.

10:40 – The Gospels as Curriculum

13:30 – The Microgroup Secret: Why the number three is hard to hide in and easy to maneuver.

16:30 – Shifting the goal of discipleship from "knowing more" to "following better."

20:40 – The S.O.W.I.N.G. Method: Six questions that bridge internal growth with external evangelism.

29:14 – Gathered vs. Scattered: How to track your church’s impact on people you never see on Sunday.

31:42 – Finding the "Good Soil": Why pastors should stop training the 1,000 and start looking for the "One."

Resources Mentioned:

The 5-3-2 Disciple-Making Journal by David Putman

Detox for the Overly Religious by David Putman

Planting the Gospel: https://www.plantingthegospel.com

Eric Bryant's website: https://www.ericbryant.org

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