The Innovative Therapist

Episode 136: Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius

Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! This episode marks a small milestone for the show—I've officially upgraded my mic setup! After 137 episodes of recording with a free noise-canceling headset (and occasionally in my car on my phone), I finally invested in a proper mic and pop filter. Let’s just say my tech journey involved a bit of user error, but here we are, and I hope the sound quality is noticeably better for you!

But that’s not the heart of today’s episode. Instead, we’re diving into a topic that’s been front and center in my mind lately: the delicate balance between joy, rest, and purpose in the work we do as therapists and healers.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

A Business and Life Update: I’ll share a transparent look at where I am professionally and personally as 2024 comes to a close. Reflecting on the past year helps me process lessons learned and set intentions for the future.

The Challenge of Balancing Rest and Passion: When you truly love your work, carving out time for rest can feel tricky (or even counterintuitive). I’ll talk about my ongoing journey with this balance and what’s worked (and hasn’t).

The Zone of Genius Concept in Action: I’ll discuss how I’m applying the idea of working in your Zone of Genius—not just professionally, but in everyday life—and what it’s teaching me about alignment and joy.

Money and Meaningful Work: Money is a theme that keeps popping up in my reflections and conversations. While I’m not diving deeply into it in this episode, I’m previewing plans for upcoming episodes in 2025 that will explore the relationship between money, worth, and sustainable joy in our work.

A Look Ahead: I’ll share my plans for taking a rest period as we pause the podcast over the holidays, what rest looks like for me right now, and some ideas for upcoming episodes when we return.

Living a Big Life: You'll hear a bit about this Marvelous Mrs. Maisel clip and what I love so much about it. And what a big life looks like to me.

Why This Episode Matters

This episode is a chance for us to take a pause together, reflect on the intersection of healing work, creativity, and rest, and celebrate the progress we’ve made. If you’ve ever felt torn between your love for your work and your need for downtime—or wondered how to tap more deeply into your gifts—this one’s for you.

Resources Mentioned:

Free PDF with ideas for Creative Ways to Make Money as a Therapist

Tune In

Grab a cup of coffee (or your beverage of choice) and join me for this honest, reflective, and slightly vulnerable episode. Let’s explore how we can continue to show up in the work we were called to do—joyfully, meaningfully, and with plenty of room for rest.

Listen to the episode now, and let me know your thoughts! What does rest look like for you at this stage in your journey? How are you leaning into your Zone of Genius? Drop me a message or share your reflections—I’d love to hear from you.

Here’s to a restorative end to 2024 and an inspired start to 2025!

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams.

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 42 states in the US.

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195.

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001.

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and explore creative methods for healing, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 136. I'm feeling more called to share things about the food relationship again lately, which has been kind of fun. I talk about this stuff all day every day with many of my 1 on 1 clients, and sometimes I forget that it isn't second nature to people, since I've spent many a year focusing on improving my relationship to food and body for myself.

Today's episode walks you through what I did with my Halloween candy recently and why. It was also an opportunity to reflect on my business and the Body Respect Program I ran a few years ago.

What to Expect in this Episode

I cover the following:

Why I felt compelled to share this episode today

What I did with my Halloween candy this year and why

My FB live about this same topic November 2020! It's cringey! I was super nervous

Reflecting on the Body Respect Program and my thoughts about updating it with IFS

Some of the small ways my opinions have changed about food addiction and how I might tweak my prior statement from my FB live, "food addiction is a real thing"

The extreme polarization on food addiction

What I think is behind my desire for food (Check out the "I want a big life" clip here)

How to navigate the nuance with eating decisions and be honest with yourself

And more!

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams.

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 42 states in the US

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and explore creative methods for healing, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 134. Today's episode is Part 2 of 2 of my conversation with Becca Gibson. Please make sure to go back and listen to Part 1 first.

In this part of the conversation we dive into the good stuff. The ways that therapists and other helpers accidentally cause harm, how to avoid this, and some of the things Becca really wishes people knew about people who have diagnoses of ADHD and Autism.

Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people.

Let's dive in!

What to Expect in This Episode

We cover the following:

Some of the many ways that therapists and others can cause harm for people with ADHD and Autism

Becca's thoughts on the requirement of a formal diagnosis to confirm ADHD or Autism

What therapists can to do avoid this harm

What psychodrama is and how it can be therapeutic, particularly for experiences with trauma (including how it brings a somatic component that can be unique compared to other somatic therapies)

What psychodrama can look like and how it can be used in individual and group settings

Becca's insights into community building, group work and how it can do things that individual work simply cannot

Becca's process with openly sharing her ADHD and Autism diagnoses and what went into that decision

And so much more!

Who is Becca Gibson

Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy, a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” –  and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision.

Definition of Neurodivergent

Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker, neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’” 

Resources Mentioned

YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ

Matt Lowry's information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based

Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com

Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label these feelings

AASPIRE - https://autismandhealth.org/

Information about Psychodrama

The Obsessive Joy of Autism book

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 133. I am so incredibly grateful for this conversation. I'm especially grateful for Becca's knowledge and openness about their personal and professional experiences in this realm. I'm also so glad I live in a time when therapists can come on a podcast and be open about their personal experiences. What a freaking gift.

Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people.

This conversation is a 2-parter, filled with information, resources and interwoven with Becca's story of becoming a therapist and late diagnosis of ADHD and autism.

You're going to love it.

What to Expect in this Episode

We cover the following:

The work Becca does with clients, professional trainings and continuing education and how their non-linear path here

The ways autism and ADHD are understood now, and how Becca has seen these understanding shift over the past few decades

The true definition of neurodivergence

What it means that autism is a dynamic disability

Why we don't use the term Asperger's syndrome anymore

And so much more! (Be sure to tune in next week for Part 2 where we dive into the harm that can be caused by therapists and others to those with Autism and ADHD, and how to avoid this, psychodrama, Becca's other creative joys, and so much more)

Who is Becca Gibson

Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy, a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” –  and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision.

Definition of Neurodivergent

Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker, neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’” 

Resources Mentioned

YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ

Matt Lowry's information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based

Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com

Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label these feelings

AASPIRE - https://autismandhealth.org/

Information about Psychodrama

The Obsessive Joy of Autism book

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 132: Creativity, Healing & Building Empowering Communities with Elise Kutt of Mod Bettie

“I knew I wanted to do something creative every day for the rest of my life.” – Elise Kutt

Some conversations hit you right in the heart—and this one with Elise Kutt is exactly that kind of conversation. I’ve been looking forward to this interview for a while, and it was so worth the wait.

Elise is one of the most creative, generous, and insightful entrepreneurs I’ve met. She’s the founder of Mod Bettie, an empowerment portrait studio, and Naughty Bettie, a Grand Rapids-based lingerie boutique. She’s also a speaker, educator, and retreat leader—and in everything she does, she brings authenticity, vulnerability, and the kind of courage that inspires others to show up more fully as themselves.

We first met at a retreat in 2023, and I immediately knew she was someone I wanted to learn more from and share with my community. Her story touches on so many themes I care deeply about: the power of listening to our bodies, how creativity can transform pain into purpose, and what it really takes to build something that serves others and honors ourselves.

🎧 What to Expect in This Episode:

In this deep and wide-ranging conversation, Elise and I talk about:

✨ How an early “failure” led her to photography and the creative life✨ Falling in love with herself through self-portrait work✨ The evolution of Mod Bettie from a niche pin-up brand to an inclusive empowerment studio✨ Why she opened a lingerie boutique—and the problem it solved for her clients✨ The ways photography can support (and sometimes harm) the self-love journey✨ Her pivot into retreat work and what creative flow has taught her about healing✨ Letting go of a thriving studio after 10 years—and how she knew it was time✨ Listening to her body’s “no” and following her intuition toward freedom✨ A spontaneous creative idea during the episode you won’t want to miss!

From Self-Portraits to Self-Love

When Elise first picked up a camera, she didn’t know it would change her life—but she did know she wanted every day to feel creative. Starting with self-portraits in art school, she discovered that the act of photographing herself helped her see and love herself in a new way.

And that became the foundation of her work.

Her studio, Mod Bettie, grew into an empowerment portrait experience like no other—one focused on authenticity, inclusivity, and helping women feel seen and celebrated. Over the past decade, Elise built a thriving business and vibrant community, including #SquadBettie, one of the most supportive online spaces I’ve encountered.

“I Show Up As Myself—And I Want Others to Feel Safe Doing the Same”

Elise doesn’t just take photos—she co-creates transformation. In this episode, she talks honestly about what it takes to truly empower someone through photography. That means slowing down. Creating safety. And even turning away clients when she senses they’re not quite ready for the process.

She’s also deeply thoughtful about harm reduction, especially in the boudoir photography space, where things like weight bias and trauma insensitivity can cause unintended damage. She’s currently developing training materials for trauma-informed photography, in collaboration with mental health professionals.

This level of integrity and intention is just one reason Elise’s work is so powerful.

Listening to Her Body—And Making the Brave Call to Let Go

One of the most powerful moments in our conversation came when Elise talked about letting go of her beloved studio space. After years of building something beautiful and successful, her body started sending clear messages: it was time to slow down, take a sabbatical, and make space for personal healing and creative projects.

With the support of her mentor Kate Block, Elise did something many entrepreneurs are terrified to do—she chose to pause.

And that pause is already leading to new offerings: a self-portrait curriculum, deeper retreat experiences, and her dream of returning to gallery work after a decade of building for others.

Healing Through Creativity, Curiosity, and Play

Elise's story is a powerful reminder that creativity isn't just about making beautiful things—it’s about healing, self-discovery, and reclaiming the joy of play. Whether she’s photographing women, dancing around a camera in a Scottish field, or designing her next retreat offering, Elise models what it means to live a life filled with meaning, magic, and heart.

Who is Elise Kutt?

Multi-passionate entrepreneur, speaker, educator, photographer, boutique owner

Founder of Mod Bettie, an empowerment portrait studio

Founder of Naughty Bettie, a Grand Rapids-based lingerie boutique

Retreat co-host with Wandering Roots (over 20 hosted!)

Named West Michigan’s Remarkable Woman of the Year in 2023

Currently on a sabbatical year focused on personal projects, healing, and creative exploration

Connect with Elise:

📸 Website: modbettie.com👯‍♀️ Facebook Group: #SquadBettie📬 Substack: modbettie.substack.com💌 Instagram: @modbettie

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Disclaimer:This blog and podcast are for informational and educational purposes only. They do not constitute medical or mental health advice and are not a substitute for professional consultation or treatment.

Episode 131. The 1st Annual Innovative Therapist Retreat is in the books! It's been almost 3 weeks, and it's time to share how it went. This episode is more about my experience hosting and some early reflections.

More later on the healing power of community, and other's experiences.

If you are thinking of creating something innovative, this episode is for you!

What to Expect in this Episode

I cover:

The report on the Inaugural Innovative Therapist Retreat! (please listen to this previous episode about Creating Something Useful for the full retreat creation backstory)

My intention with this event and what it involved

What I witnessed in the participants

Guidance on how to decide what to create outside of the 1 on 1 model of therapy practice (including how Human Design can inform how each of us may be different in this)

Why I think I got super sick after the retreat

What I've learned about myself in the 3 weeks since it's been done

The pros and cons of hosting a retreat from a business perspective (and the answer to the question, "Did it feel like a paid vacation for me?")

And so much more!

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 130. This episode is the first I've talked about my relationship to food in a while, but I woke up feeling compelled to share on this topic, so I went with it.

I cover how our relationship with food can have parallels to our relationship to money and how all of this can impact our ability to trust ourselves and pursue work that feels aligned and good to us.

I hope you find it helpful!

Without further ado, let’s dive in!

What to Expect in this Episode

I cover:

What I had for breakfast that morning (and why) - I promise there's a point to this share

How my mindset has shifted around food (in the past, and how this continues to impact me now)

Parallels between our relationship to food and our relationship with money

How the definition of autonomous motivation applies to food, money, and other things and how pursuing "freedom of choice, without excessive pressure" can impact us positively when it comes to lasting motivation

The impact of focusing on calories in versus out

How working on gut health can help with symptoms like headaches, skin health, etc. in surprising ways

And other musings!

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 129. I have loved this quote from Howard Thurman for years:

"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."

The concept of Zone of Genius was introduced to me 2 years ago and I find it so incredibly helpful. So today, I'll be sharing it with you.

Without further ado, let’s dive in!

What to Expect in this Episode

I cover:

What is Zone of Genius and why should you care about it?

Where I initially learned about it

What are the 4 Zones to understand, and what does it mean if you are stuck in your Zone of Competence or Excellence

What are some questions to ask yourself to help figure out your Zone of Genius

How can you move towards working more in your Zone of Genius?

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 128. I've never been more convinced of the power of creativity in creating amazing things in the world, in our bodies, and in our businesses.

Today's episode is a solo episode where I dive into my thoughts on this based on my conversation last episode with Marlys Woods, LMFT.

Check out that conversation here.

Without further ado, let’s dive in!

What to Expect in this Episode

I cover the following:

How we, and I, have de-valued music and the arts as a form of healing in the past

Why I think it's essential now more than ever that we re-connect with it as we explore innovative approaches to the many problems of the world

Collective healing with music and missed opportunities with a life devoid of arts and music

How connecting with creativity through music and dance has been incredibly healing to me in a very short time

My reflections on the healing that occurred in simply discussing my emotional experience with a song with Marlys (Including discussion about the song I talked to Marlys about which can be found here) (includes an example of a protector part of me, and an exiled one who has held a burden)

Using music and dance and other creative expression to connect with pre-verbal parts

The importance of getting the emotion out of you, versus isolating in it

The impact of creativity in creating sustainable businesses that work around your life (with Marlys Woods and Megan Gunnell as really fascinating examples of this)

How you can be sure to hear if Marlys and I do a collaborative experiential event for therapists to experience the healing power of music (we are already brainstorming on this)

And so much more!

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

Episode 127. Saddle up and get ready listeners! We are talking about music and healing today. Yes! I hope you are as excited as I am. I've been searching for the perfect guest to come on and talk about this, and let me tell you, I found her.

How Music Can Heal Us (But Also Can Cause Harm)

Marlys Woods of Get In Tune Music Therapy is a board certified music therapist and also a licensed marriage and family therapist.

Without further ado, let’s dive in!

What to Expect in this Episode

We cover the following:

How Marlys came to doing this work and the role music and singing have played in her life

How this specific way of using music in the mental health world is actually a very small movement, and what that's been like for Marlys (and the opportunity it could provide for those who are interested)

How Marlys has to be innovative with her work and business (and how she didn't actually want to do this at first)

What a music therapy session might look like, including a specific song from my life (can be found here if you want to listen to it and follow along!) - this was a huge aha for me and opened up a new level of healing that I will share about in this episode and the one that follows

How music can be harmful

How to use it in a helpful way

Common fears for therapists and clients about connecting with creativity

Should therapists dabble with using music in sessions without training in music therapy

How you can be sure to hear if Marlys and I do a collaborative experiential event for therapists and helpers to experience the healing power of music (we are already brainstorming on this)

And so much more!

Who is Marlys Woods

Board-Certified Music Therapist and Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist

Provides a specialized approach to using music in mental health recovery settings including addiction, eating disorder, anxiety and depression

Passionate about using her knowledge of relationships, people, and music to help those struggling with mental health

Believes music therapy is an integral part of mental health recovery

Services include therapist and facility trainings, direct therapy services, and self-study programs

Serves treatment sites in Southern California and the Greater Denver Area, and offers virtual services worldwide

Watch Marlys's video about how music can harm here.

Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US

My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195

If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at [email protected] or call 616-227-0001

Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at [email protected] to introduce yourself!

Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.

Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).