Ben Kingsley sits down with Senator Andrew Bragg, Liberal Senator and Shadow Minister for Housing and Homelessness, for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of housing, tax reform, productivity and Australia’s economic direction.

In this special interview, they unpack the proposed changes to negative gearing and capital gains tax, the growing challenge of housing affordability, construction bottlenecks, energy policy, lending restrictions and what all of this could mean for everyday Australians trying to build wealth through property.

They also explore whether Australia’s housing crisis is really a supply issue, how productivity and red tape are impacting new home construction, and why borrowing capacity rules may be creating unintended consequences across the property market. 

Plus, Ben asks the big question many investors are wondering right now:
 Will the proposed tax reforms actually improve affordability… or could they create a two-tier property market? 

If you want a deeper understanding of the policy debate shaping Australia’s property market, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. 

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 Timestamps 

• 00:00 – Introducing Senator Andrew Bragg
• 00:59 – Early life, money lessons and investing
• 03:30 – What Did the Budget Get Right?
• 04:16 – Shovel-ready housing and infrastructure
• 05:19 – Housing supply, migration and skills shortages
• 06:45 – Redistribution vs aspiration
• 08:31 – Productivity and building more homes
• 11:15 – Could a Simpler Building Code Help Build More Homes?
• 13:52 – Modular homes, tiny homes and cheaper builds
• 16:10 – Will banks finance alternative housing?
• 17:58 – Lending rules, APRA and borrowing capacity
• 18:31 – Investors competing with first home buyers
• 22:20 – How Do We Fix Australia’s Energy Problem?
• 25:09 – AI, data centres and economic growth
• 26:46 – Negative gearing and CGT changes
• 28:38 – Will the reforms help first home buyers?
• 30:40 – Could this create a two-tier property market?
• 31:04 – Housing fairness or revenue raising?
• 33:20 – Negative gearing as a “moment in time”
• 34:14 – Who really gets locked out?
• 36:19 – Capital gains tax and younger Australians
• 39:55 – Quick-fire housing questions
• 40:50 – One housing reform to pass immediately
• 42:06 – Ben’s final reflections
• 43:45 – Upcoming webinar: Property Prices After Tax Reform

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