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March 29, 2018 Episode 140 – Unequal Fines, Aboriginal Witch Doctors and a Text Message from Judas Iscariot
Unequal Fines, Aboriginal Witch Doctors and a Text Message from Judas Iscariot.
1:49 We catch up with Caitlin to discuss her rally calling for an exclusion zone for an Albury fertility clinic.
14:20 We review my interview with Chris Lambe of the New Creation Church.
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1 hr 59 min
March 22, 2018 Episode 139 – Chris Lambe of New Creation Church
The Iron Fist talks to Chris Lambe of the New Creation Church about faith and Jesus Christ.
In the podcast, Trevor refers to a study proving that prayer is harmful rather than beneficial. Here is the link.
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1 hr 28 min
March 14, 2018 Episode 138 – The Chaplaincy Program Could be Illegal
5:50 So it turns out you can pray in Canberra without being convicted of a criminal offence.
9:07 The TPP is back. Get Up campaigning. The URL says zombie, Meanwhile Trump will exempt the great country of Australia from steel tariffs.
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1 hr 9 min
March 06, 2018 Episode 137 – Thinking Fast and Slow
A repeat of episode 112. Sorry about the audio quality.
In this episode, The Fist and Simon do a book review of Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman.
The phenomenal New York Times Bestseller by Nobel Prize-winner Daniel Kahneman,
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1 hr
February 27, 2018 Episode 136 – Venerable Alex
With The Fist away we present a repeat of episode 89 which was a discussion with Venerable Alex about Buddhism.
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1 hr 4 min
February 21, 2018 Episode 135 – Conquered People could be a compliment

A listener has suggested that The Velvet Glove used insensitive language towards Indigenous Australians and The Fist provides a different perspective. We also look at tribalism, online arguments, protest-free zones for abortion clinics, gun control in America, circumcisions in Iceland, the cowardice of the current ABC leadership, judges with jobs on the side and divorcing yourself from the Catholic Church.
1:09 We chat with Brett about how to speak about Indigenous Australians.
33:46 We chat with Matt about tribalism, social cues and online arguments.
1:04:12 From Ken – Do you guys recommend any sort of group or organization for people to join or support? Are there any out there doing a good job?

1:10:54 Podcast awards – vote for us
1:11:42 Silent prayers – is that a protest?

1:13:04 Pro-Choice Volunteers Are Countering Religious Picketers With Chocolate And Chaperones In Queensland
1:14:58 Another shooting – enjoy your assault rifle but you better not try to buy a beer. Trump blames FBI for concentrating on Russia at expense of crazy gunman meanwhile he changed an Obama law to stop mentally ill from getting guns. The Russians own Trump. Ban guns. If people get upset, send them thoughts and prayers. Australians can still own guns, but …
1:20:06 Faith healing kills kids: Protesters march against Idaho Republicans who believe parents have the right to kill their children with prayer.
1:23:16 Jewish leaders hit out over Iceland’s plans to ban boys’ circumcision
1:29:15 Turnbull’s attack on Emma Alberici’s tax-cut analysis doesn’t add up MICHAEL KEATING. Trickle down economics and the Emma Alberici article.
1:31:46 Two sitting Queensland judges should quit their roles as legal advisers to the Anglican church, given the risk of controversy around the church’s responses to child sex abuse claims, according to a leading authority on judicial ethics.
1:32:58 Actus Formalis Defectionis AB Ecclesia Catholica:

1 hr 46 min
February 14, 2018 Episode 134 – Albury, Indonesia, ABC Bias and Peter Rabbit
It only takes 2 hours and 10 minutes to describe Christian protesters of a fertility clinic in Albury, the ethics of mandatory safety measures, the Barnaby Joyce saga, ABC bias in favour of religions, the Indonesian Military’s capacity to invade Australia, a fire levy which exposes the Catholic Church, an example of bike shedding on the Hugh Harris Facebook page, dirty sinning primary school kids and how Peter Rabbit has gone feral.
0:56 An activist group in Albury takes on Christian protesters who are picketing a fertility clinic.
33:30 We discuss the following question from Greg:
Hi, Fist, Glove & 12th,
I’m currently listing to Ep 132 and after listening to The 12th Man’s opinion on vaccinations, I’m wondering what his opinion is on seatbelt and helmet laws.
I see them as being almost perfect parallels.
Helmet and seatbelt laws are the government interfering in people’s lives to protect them from themselves.
Helmets and seatbelts even hurt and kill people from time to time but we accept the negatives because they are vastly outweighed by the positives.
My next question is for the whole team.
How would you feel about a law that says parents don’t have to vaccinate but if their child is hurt or killed by a vaccine-preventable illness, or their child infects another person who is hurt or injured, they will be liable for charges of child endangerment, negligence, manslaughter etc?
48:25 Barnaby Joyce – Not a sackable offence unless hiring the mistress was illegal. It is up to the voters of his electorate. When is a private matter public?
58:28 ABC – The Drum – The 12th Man is not happy.
1:05:40 The NSL gets mugged on an ABC radio programme.
1:15:38 The final version from Dean Stretton
1:22:01 Freedom for Faith wrote a 105 page submission which was widely supported by religious groups.
1:23:46 A Satanist Group to consider
1:24:48 Han Tu gives a 101 on Indonesia, China and our capacity to resist a military attack.
1:47:51 The Catholic Church owns $30B of property in Australia.
1:56:54 The Hugh Harris Facebook page is an example of Bike Shedding.
2:05:25 Lesson 4 of RI lessons will be taught soon. Children are compared to dirty towels and white towels. It is a disgrace that this is allowed.
2:08:02 Peter Rabbit has gone feral.
2:11:44 Jonathon Pie on Trump
The Links:
We need exclusion zones right here right now
Barnaby Joyce Says Traditional Definition Of Marriage Is Union Between A Man And A Woman And His Political Staffer
Sportsbet has a sense of humour
A radio interview gets out of control
FFF proposes a major reform – a Religious Freedom Act – which would “establish religious freedom as a right rather than a grudging concession.”
Satanic Australia
Catholic Inc. What the Church is really worth
The 2013 Victorian Fire Services Property Levy imposed a small tax on the value of all Victorian, properties
A judge who barred a woman from wearing traditional Muslim garb in the Victorian Supreme Court was being unreasonable, the Islamic Council of Victoria (ICV) has said.
2 hr 16 min
February 07, 2018 Episode 133 – The Good, the Bad and Dexter the Peacock
The only podcast to discuss the ACL, corporate tax, Oliver North, Socrates, Plato, Trump, Mohammed and Dexter the peacock and somehow inspire a Sydney barrister to write a brilliant opinion on “Religious Freedom”.
1:54 Dean Stretton’s submission
10:08 The ACL has 14 points and 12 deal with marriage.
15:20 Australian Christian Lobby managing director Lyle Shelton has stepped down to pursue a career in federal politics. and will be replaced by Martyn Iles
19:50 The Lyle and Cory show
21:10 Turnbull gives US tax cuts “full marks”
30:24 Oliver North
32:37 Nine reasons why he is wrong
35:50 One day, we may all owe a debt of gratitude to Dexter the peacock.
40:08 120 leading philosophers say ‘appalling’ Home Office humanism test ‘makes no sense’
41:25 Kenan Malik on Socrates, Plato and Aristotle
47:27 How did a nice country like America end up being governed by a big bunch of assholes?
51:03 The Republicans are now the Party of Trump

54:10 Vote for us at the Podcast Awards
57:00 The life of Mohamed

1 hr 24 min
January 30, 2018 Episode 132 – Satirical Satanists, Humanism, Sugar and Historical Context
We discuss a satirical satanist, humanism, the merits of a sugar tax and ancient Australian history in 92 minutes of podcast commentary.
1:10 Regarding the Ruddock Panel, we discuss a submission by Bernard Gaynor and the satirical submission of The Fist
15:07 Do we need Australia Day honours?
18:24 Should homeschooling be banned as it is in Germany?
25:30 Should vaccinations be mandatory? The Fist argues for the rights of the child. The 12th Man is wary of government interference in private lives.
33:16 This leads to a discussion about the liberal, socialist and evolutionary schools of humanism.
38:57 Assisted Dying in Qld
41:24 Another index which ranks countries
46:55 The top 1% of Australians own as much as the bottom 70%
49:41 Should we have a sugar tax?
1:10:45 In the aftermath of Australia Day we reflect on colonialism and the myth of the noble savage and whether he was a good custodian of the land.
The links:
Bernard Gaynor has over 3000 signatures and a summary from The Stirrer
The Fist has written his submission to the Ruddock panel
Do we need an honours system?
Homeschooling in the UK
Vaccinations – should they be mandatory?
Ms Palaszczuk said she wanted to see how the Victorian legislation operated before taking any other steps.
The 2018 Best Countries Index
Top 1% of Australians own more wealth than bottom 70% combined
Sugar tax
Invasion day protests
1 hr 35 min
January 23, 2018 Episode 131 – Australia Day, Finland and Raju Singh
Somehow this podcast combines Australia Day, constitutional law, an apology to Finland, religion bashing, an Indian submariner, Adam Smith, Scientology, red frogs, milkshake duck and the Human Development Indicator into a compelling 79 minutes of Australian Podcast Gold.
1:06 Australia Day – A potted history presented by the 12th Man.
11:21 We consider alternative dates.
17:58 What date do other countries choose for their national day. Spain has made a very interesting day their national day.
23:04 The Fist apologises to Finland.
29:04 The Catholics are not happy with a “sham” review of school funding.
29:57 Catholic Bishops think dividing doctors into Catholics and Non-Catholics is a good idea.
33:05 Thanks to Clem Jones, Assisted Dying legislation will be a big topic in Qld in 2018
36:33 The Pope got a cool reception in Chile.
38:51 What do religions have in common? They all want your money.
41:03 A submarine Catholic
42:22 Indian submariner Raju Singh has left us a voicemail.
45:13 The Ruddock panel and submissions from The Atheist Foundation.
50:35 A radio interview by Chris Schacht of the NSL.
51:30 Canadian Christians are so persecuted. They are forced to comply with the same laws as everyone else.
54:01 The Marion Maddox theory on the feelings of religious groups to a Bill of Rights form of religious protection.
56:56 We are popular in Japan.
1:00:46 A Pakistani humanist was rejected because he failed to identify Plato.
1:02:27 The Scientologists were active at schoolies. Hotel owners were furious but the same could be said about the Red Frogs group.
1:05:01 Tennys Sandgren has been milkshake ducked. And Nick Kyrgios is still a dick.
1:10:48 Adam Smith was worried about powerful business interests controlling our political leaders and distorting the free market.
1:13:14 GDP is a poor statistic and maybe we should look at the Human Development Index.
1:17:33 Psycho Chickens
The links:
A harrowing account of an aboriginal woman
Other national days
Catholics are not happy
Catholic doctors to form national association
Pope Francis ‘slander’ comment angers Chile abuse victims
The Catholic Church in Rome is accepting paywave
The not so amazing Grace Grace
Submission by The Atheist Foundation to the Ruddock panel
A radio interview with Chris Schacht (pronounced shot) of the NSL
Trudeau is asking religious Canadians to betray their conscience for federal funding
Alas, it is satire
1 hr 22 min