The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

Download on the App Store

The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades episodes

  • You’re Not Who We Want Out Here: A Woman’s Reality in the Skilled Trades

    The first thing a superintendent said to Valerie Butler on a jobsite was: ‘You’re not who we want out here.’”

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Valerie Butler, a plumbing apprentice at P.I.P.E. Incorporated, to explore how to build a successful plumbing career path in today’s skilled trades industry. Valerie shares her journey from the Marine Corps to a hands-on plumbing apprenticeship, offering real insight into military to trades career transitions, job site realities, and the value of skilled trades mentorship.

    This episode takes an honest look at what it’s like being one of the first women in a company’s apprenticeship program, how plumbers actually get started without industry connections, and why the trades offer long-term opportunity without college debt. If you’re exploring women in the skilled trades, considering a plumbing apprenticeship, or looking for a proven plumbing career path, this conversation delivers practical guidance from someone living it.

    IN THIS EPISODE
    1. (00:01) – From Military to Trades Career: How Valerie transitioned from the Marine Corps into a plumbing apprenticeship
    2. (07:58) – Plumbing Apprenticeship 101: How to get hired, what first-year plumbers actually do
    3. (15:40) – Women in the Skilled Trades: Navigating job sites, skepticism, and earning respect
    4. (26:22) – Skilled Trades Mentorship: Why the right foreman changes everything
    5. (35:55) – Plumbing Career Path & Pay Progression: Apprentice wages vs journeyman income
    6. (47:30) – Advice for Gen Z & Career Changers: How to test trades careers without long-term risk

    Key Takeaways
    1. A plumbing apprenticeship provides paid education and long-term career security without student loan debt.
    2. Women in the skilled trades are reshaping construction culture through planning, leadership, and problem-solving.
    3. Military to trades career transitions offer a strong advantage, especially in discipline, confidence, and adaptability.
    4. Skilled trades mentorship accelerates learning, builds confidence, and shortens the path to mastery.

    About the Guest

    Valerie Butler is a plumbing apprentice at P.I.P.E. Incorporated and a passionate advocate for women in the skilled trades. After leaving the Marine Corps due to injury, Valerie pursued a plumbing apprenticeship, proving that a military to trades career can lead to stability, growth, and fulfillment.

    As one of the first women apprentices in her company, Valerie actively supports skilled trades mentorship, participates in career fairs, and uses LinkedIn to help more women explore sustainable plumbing career paths in the trades industry.

    Keywords

    Women in the Skilled Trades, Plumbing Apprenticeship, Military to Trades Career, Skilled Trades Mentorship, Plumbing Career Path, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Valerie Butler, P.I.P.E. Incorporated, Toolfetch, Plumbers, Electricians, HVAC, Carpentry, Millwrights, Construction, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Advocacy, Contractors, Industry Experts, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    RESOURCE LINKS

    Website: https://pipeinc.net/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    28 min
  • How to Build a Career in Aircraft Maintenance (FAA Certified, In-Demand)

    Aircraft maintenance is the backbone of aviation safety. Andrew Brown and Jason Pfaff break down the aircraft maintenance technician shortage, FAA A&P certification, and aviation careers.

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Jason Pfaff, CEO of the Aviation Institute of Maintenance, to explore the unseen world of aircraft maintenance and why the growing aircraft maintenance technician shortage is becoming a serious issue across the aviation industry.

    They unpack what goes into keeping planes airworthy, why FAA A&P certification is one of the most rigorous credentials in the skilled trades, and how aviation maintenance school serves Gen Z, career changers, and hands-on problem solvers alike. The conversation also maps the long-term aviation mechanic career path, including pay progression, mobility, and opportunities beyond commercial airlines.

    This episode is essential listening for anyone curious about Skilled Trades, the Trades Industry, or high-impact careers built on craftsmanship, precision, and responsibility.

    IN THIS EPISODE
    1. (00:00) – Aircraft Maintenance Explained: What the public doesn’t see behind every flight
    2. (01:27) – The Aircraft Maintenance Technician Shortage: Why aviation is facing a workforce gap
    3. (08:17) – FAA A&P Certification: Why aviation mechanics are held to a higher standard
    4. (13:40) – Aviation Maintenance School: Program length, structure, and return on investment
    5. (18:56) – Career Placement & Mobility: Airlines, MROs, space, and advanced aerospace roles
    6. (26:05) – The Aviation Mechanic Career Path: Earnings, leadership tracks, and long-term growth

    Key Takeaways
    1. Aircraft maintenance is a highly coordinated, safety-critical system that most passengers never notice—until something goes wrong.
    2. The aircraft maintenance technician shortage is structural, driven by retirements, reduced trade pipelines, and rising travel demand.
    3. FAA A&P certification provides standardized credibility, portability, and strong employer demand across aviation and aerospace.
    4. An aviation maintenance school pathway offers a high-ROI skilled trade with a scalable aviation mechanic career path.

    About the Guest

    Jason Pfaff is the CEO of the Aviation Institute of Maintenance, one of the nation’s largest aviation training organizations. He leads initiatives focused on workforce development, FAA-aligned education, and career placement across commercial aviation, MROs, and aerospace employers. Jason is a vocal advocate for Trades Careers, education access, and strengthening the skilled trades pipeline nationwide.

    Keywords

    Aircraft Maintenance, Aircraft Maintenance Technician Shortage, FAA A&P Certification, Aviation Maintenance School, Aviation Mechanic Career Path, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Advocacy, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Andrew Brown, Jason Pfaff, Aviation Institute of Maintenance, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Industry Experts

    RESOURCE LINKS

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-pfaff-210a3578/

    Website: https://aviationmaintenance.edu/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    45 min
  • Welding Workforce Shortage: How to Get Into the Welding Trade & Where Welding Jobs Are Headed

    Host Andrew Brown tackles the growing welding workforce shortage and explains why it’s one of the most urgent challenges facing the construction and skilled trades industries today. As experienced tradespeople retire and fewer young workers enter the pipeline, the future of welding jobs in the U.S. hangs in the balance.

    Andrew breaks down how to get into the welding trade, why traditional advice is failing Gen Z, and what’s missing from today’s education system. He explores skilled trades careers for Gen Z, highlighting how craftsmanship, problem-solving, and creativity are being overlooked in favor of outdated college-only narratives.

    The episode also compares welder apprenticeship vs trade school, showing contractors, parents, and young workers how to evaluate real career pathways not marketing promises. Along the way, Andrew ties welding to the broader ecosystem of carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and the entire trades industry, calling for stronger advocacy and leadership from industry experts, contractors, and organizations like the Skilled Trades Advisory Council.

    IN THIS EPISODE
    1. (00:00) Why This Episode Matters: The Welding Workforce Shortage & AWS Summit Context
    2. (02:19) 9/11, the Trades, and Why This Mission Became Personal
    3. (05:13) From IT to Trades Advocacy: Building Toolfetch and Telling Trade Stories
    4. (07:28) Why Gen Z Isn’t Entering the Trades: Shop Class, Guidance Counselors, and Perception
    5. (09:47) Trade School vs Reality: Barriers to Entry and Early-Career Frustration
    6. (11:49) How to Get Into the Welding Trade: Standing Out, Follow-Up, and Personal Branding
    7. (14:17) The Future of Welding Jobs in the U.S. and Why AI Won’t Replace the Trades
    8. (16:44) Final Advice: Earning Your Stripes, Staying Patient, and Building a Career

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    1. The welding workforce shortage is a long-term structural problem driven by retirements, broken education pipelines, and poor messaging.
    2. The future of welding jobs in the U.S. remains strong, stable, and essential to construction, infrastructure, and manufacturing.
    3. Choosing between welder apprenticeship vs trade school depends on mentorship, employer commitment, and real job placement—not tuition price alone.
    4. Skilled trades careers for Gen Z must be reframed around purpose, creativity, problem-solving, and long-term opportunity.

    KEYWORDS:

    Welding workforce shortage, How to get into the welding trade, Skilled trades careers for Gen Z, Welder apprenticeship vs trade school, Future of welding jobs in the U.S., Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    ABOUT THE HOST

    Andrew Brown is the host of The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades podcast and the founder of Trades Media. He works with industry leaders, educators, and employers to close the skilled trades workforce gap by telling real, on-the-job stories that resonate with the next generation. Andrew focuses full-time on elevating trades careers through podcasting, keynote speaking, and live event activations across North America.

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    18 min
  • Plumbing, Pressure & Competition: Lessons from A WorldSkills Competitor with Charles Goede

    Want to start a plumbing career? Charles Goede joins host Andrew Brown to break down trade school training, union apprenticeships, and the SkillsUSA competition.

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Charles Goede , the U.S. competitor for WorldSkills Plumbing & Heating 2026, to explore how a young tradesperson rises through trade school training, excels in the SkillsUSA competition, and builds a long-term plumbing career.

    Charles opens up about mentors who shaped him, the reality of union apprenticeships, what it’s like to compete on a world stage, and how the skilled trades create life-changing opportunities—from travel to high-earning work to lifelong craftsmanship.

    Whether you’re curious about entering the trades industry, pursuing plumbing, or navigating union vs. non-union opportunities, this episode delivers raw, real-world insight from someone who’s lived it.

    IN THIS EPISODE
    1. (00:01) – Starting a Plumbing Career Through Trade School Training. How Charles discovered trade school training, joined SkillsUSA, and realized the skilled trades were the right path.
    2. (05:22) – SkillsUSA Competition: Pressure, Performance & Personal Growth. Charles explains competing at the SkillsUSA competition, winning Connecticut, and placing second in the nation—plus the nerves of performing in front of thousands.

    1. (12:18) – Family Influence, Mentorship & Finding the Right Trade. Why he chose a plumbing career over welding or electrical, and how mentors, teachers, and his cousin guided him through early decision-making.


    1. (18:40) – Big Mechanical Systems & Daily Problem-Solving in the Skilled Trades. A look at boilers, chillers, steam systems, blueprints, and why problem-solving is the heart of craftsmanship in the skilled trades.


    1. (24:50) – Union Apprenticeships: Pay, Benefits & How to Get In. Charles breaks down why he recommends union apprenticeships, how competitive they are, and how persistence helps apprentices get accepted.


    1. (32:15) – Preparing for WorldSkills 2026: Metric Systems, Training & Mental Toughness. Inside the intense world of WorldSkills: simulations, training on European plumbing systems, mental discipline, and representing the U.S. next year.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    1. Trade school training opens real pathways into high-earning, meaningful careers in the skilled trades.
    2. Union apprenticeships offer unmatched pay, training, and benefits, but require persistence and commitment.
    3. The SkillsUSA competition builds confidence, problem-solving skills, and exposure to elite craftsmanship.
    4. A successful plumbing career combines hands-on learning, mentorship, field experience, and adaptability—especially on major construction projects.

    ABOUT THE GUEST

    Charles Goede is a rising leader in America’s skilled trades and the official U.S. competitor for WorldSkills Plumbing & Heating 2026. After launching his plumbing career through trade school training, Charles excelled in the SkillsUSA competition, winning Connecticut and placing second nationally.

    A proud member of his union, he advocates strongly for union apprenticeships, hands-on education, and real-world mentorship while training full-time to compete on the world stage.

    KEYWORDS

    Skilled Trades, Plumbing Career, Union Apprenticeships, SkillsUSA Competition, Trade School Training, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Charles Goede, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Carpentry, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Contractors, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    RESOURCE LINKS

    SkillsUSA: https://www.skillsusa.org/

    WorldSkills: https://worldskillsusa.org/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    16 min
  • The Truth About Plumbing Careers — Purpose, Pay & Starting at 40

    Career change at 40? Learn how skilled trades careers, plumbing apprenticeships, and the Trade Up Program help adults start working with your hands.

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Lixil America’s Senior National Sales Trainer Vinny Arnese to unpack what it really looks like to make a career change at 40, begin a plumbing apprenticeship, join the Skilled Trades, or shift into a hands-on career through the Trade Up Program.

    They break down the rising demand for skilled trades careers, why so many people over 40 are ditching white-collar stress for working with your hands, and how Lixil’s national initiatives support contractors, educators, and the next generation through real advocacy.

    Whether you're exploring a career change at 40, researching skilled trades careers, or considering a plumbing apprenticeship, this episode delivers grounded advice, personal stories, and real industry insight you won’t hear anywhere else.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    ● (00:00) – Why Skilled Trades Careers Are Exploding: Demand, wages, and why more people make a career change at 40.

    ● (04:52) – Is It Too Late at 40? Real stories of adults shifting careers and finally enjoying working with your hands.

    ● (10:41) – Inside the Trade Up Program: How Lixil America is reshaping pathways into skilled trades careers through advocacy & education.

    ● (18:22) – What a Plumbing Apprenticeship Really Looks Like: Earn-while-you-learn, tuition support, and contractor pathways.

    ● (25:55) – Gen Z, School Counselors & Trades Education: Why the industry needs more structured messaging and exposure.

    ● (32:14) – Purpose & Fulfillment Through Hands-On Work: Problem-solving, craftsmanship, and why working with your hands transforms lives.

    Key Takeaways:

    ● A career change at 40 is not only realistic—it’s becoming one of the fastest-growing entry points into skilled trades careers.

    ● A plumbing apprenticeship gives you paid training, fast advancement, and long-term job security without student debt.

    ● Lixil America’s Trade Up Program is helping adults and students find real pathways into the trades through advocacy and hands-on exposure.

    ● Working with your hands offers creativity, purpose, problem-solving, and financial stability in a way many white-collar roles no longer provide.

    About the Guest

    Vinny Arnese is the Senior National Sales Trainer for Lixil America, representing American Standard, GROHE, and DXV. He leads Lixil’s nationwide Trade Up Program, an initiative designed to close the talent gap by guiding students, adults, contractors, and educators toward skilled trades careers—including mechanical, plumbing, HVAC, electricians, millwrights, and construction.

    A passionate advocate for the Skilled Trades, Vinny works closely with educators, unions, contractors, and industry experts. His mission is to help anyone—from high school students to those making a career change at 40—discover the stability and fulfillment of working with your hands through training, mentorship, and access to proper education pathways like a plumbing apprenticeship.

    Keywords

    Career Change at 40, Skilled Trades Careers, Plumbing Apprenticeship, Trade Up Program, Working With Your Hands, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Vinny Arnese, Lixil, Lixil America, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Contractors, Industry Experts, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resource Links:

    Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinny-arnese-7a71006b/

    Lixil Website: https://www.lixil.com/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    25 min
  • Why Union Careers Win: Pension, 401(k), and Healthcare Benefits Explained w/ Tom Bigley

    Union-backed skilled trades careers create long-term opportunity. Tom Bigley joins host Andrew Brown to break down trade school options, union benefits, and how to launch a successful path in the trades industry.

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Tom Bigley, Director of Plumbing Services for the United Association, to explore how today’s skilled trades careers really work—covering everything from plumbing union entry requirements to why modern apprenticeships and trade school pipelines offer unmatched union benefits and long-term security.

    Tom shares 40+ years of insights on recruitment, opportunities for women, career advancement, pension programs, and how the next generation can thrive across plumbing, welding, HVAC, carpentry, and other trades.

    Whether you’re a student, a parent, or someone considering a mid-life pivot into the skilled trades, this episode provides clear, real-world guidance from one of the most respected leaders in the trades industry.

    IN THIS EPISODE

    00:01 – Skilled Trades Benefits & Union Advantages: How pensions, healthcare, and union benefits make trades careers uniquely stable.

    04:18 – Plumbing Union Career Paths: Tom explains the United Association, leadership roles, and how the plumbing union builds future tradespeople.

    11:02 – What Makes Great Apprentices?: Communication, work ethic, and the essential soft skills behind successful apprenticeships.

    17:45 – Trade School & Technology Evolution: How modern trade school programs and training centers raise the bar for today’s skilled workers.

    25:30 – Recruiting Gen Z & Educating Parents: Why awareness of skilled trades benefits must start at home.

    34:40 – How to Join the Union: Step-By-Step: Application tips, timelines, requirements, and how anyone can begin a skilled trades career.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    • Apprenticeships in the plumbing union provide unmatched union benefits, from paid training to pensions and healthcare—making them one of the strongest entry points into the skilled trades.
    • Trade school and apprenticeships create a debt-free, high-income pathway, often outperforming traditional college outcomes.
    • The plumbing union develops more than just craft skills—it produces leaders, project managers, and industry innovators.
    • Skilled trades careers offer stability, upward mobility, and real purpose, especially as labor shortages increase opportunities nationwide.

    ABOUT THE GUEST

    Tom Bigley is the Director of Plumbing Services for the United Association, representing nearly 400,000 tradespeople across plumbing, HVAC, welding, sprinkler fitting, and pipeline work in the U.S. and Canada. With over 44 years in the skilled trades, Tom has served as a business manager, international leader, and Chairman of the World Plumbing Council. He is a lifelong advocate for apprenticeships, trade school pathways, strong union benefits, and building the future of the skilled trades workforce.


    KEYWORDS

    Skilled Trades, skilled trades careers, Plumbing Union, plumbing union benefits, Apprenticeships, apprenticeship programs, Trade School Training, union benefits, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Tradespeople, Craftsmanship, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Problem-solving, Creativity, Andrew Brown, Tom Bigley, Toolfetch, Plumbing Services of United Association, Industry Experts, Contractors, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Education, Workforce Development, Labor Shortage Solutions, Union vs Non-Union

    Resource Links
    • Website: https://ua.org/plumbers/
    • PHCC website: https//phccweb.org
    • PHCC membership web page: https//phccweb.org/membership

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    25 min
  • Inside Home Depot’s $50 Million Commitment to America’s Skilled Trades

    Behind every home built and tool lifted, the Home Depot Foundation is powering skilled trades careers through its Path to Pro trade programs. Courtney Jenkins from the Home Depot Foundation joins host Andrew Brown to discuss how to start a career in the trades, and what’s next for the trades industry.

    Host Andrew Brown welcomes Courtney Jenkins, Manager of National Programs and Strategic Partnerships at the Home Depot Foundation, for a deep dive into the future of skilled trades careers. Discover how trade programs, Path to Pro, and national partnerships are training thousands for construction jobs, HVAC, carpentry, plumbing, and electrical careers.

    Whether you’re exploring education in the trades, a contractor seeking new talent, or someone curious about craftsmanship and problem-solving, this episode shows how advocacy, access, and mentorship are closing the skilled labor gap.

    IN THIS EPISODE

    (00:00) – Skilled Trades as Option A: Why trades careers deserve to be the first choice, not a fallback.

    (06:45) – Home Depot Foundation’s $50M Commitment: How investment fuels trade programs nationwide.

    (13:10) – Path to Pro Platform: Training, mentorship, and scholarships for construction jobs and trades careers.

    (22:30) – Fixing the Labor Shortage: How the trades industry is rebuilding America’s workforce.

    (33:50) – Real-Life Impact Stories: From high school programs to veterans finding their calling.

    (46:15) – Get Involved: How to join Path to Pro, volunteer, or start your own skilled trades initiative.

    Key Takeaways
    • The Skilled Trades = Essential Careers: The trades industry fuels America’s economy with construction jobs, HVAC, electricians, carpenters, and plumbers who create lasting impact.
    • $50M in Action: Home Depot Foundation’s Impact: Through national trade programs like Path to Pro, the Home Depot Foundation has trained 60,000+ participants and introduced 490,000 people to skilled trades opportunities.
    • Education + Advocacy Build the Pipeline: The next generation of tradespeople needs strong mentors, inclusive education, and a culture that celebrates craftsmanship and problem-solving.
    • Path to Pro = Path to Success: With free training, scholarships, and job connections, Path to Pro makes starting in the skilled trades accessible, debt-free, and rewarding.

    About the Guest

    Courtney Jenkins serves as Manager of National Programs and Strategic Partnerships at the Home Depot Foundation, leading initiatives that expand access to trade programs, strengthen the trades industry, and help close the construction jobs gap. Through Path to Pro, she advocates for education, diversity, and long-term career growth in the skilled trades.

    Keywords

    Skilled Trades, Construction Jobs, Home Depot Foundation, Trade Programs, Path to Pro, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Courtney Jenkins, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resource Links

    Home Depot's Path to Pro Website: https://pathtopro.com

    LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyjenkins90/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    36 min
  • From Trader Joe’s to Trades: Why It’s Never Too Late to Start Over with Brandon McKane

    Electrician apprenticeship, union vs non-union electricians, and the career change to trades — a story for anyone wondering if it’s too late to start over.

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with Brandon McKane, a former Trader Joe’s manager who walked away from corporate life at 36 to begin an electrician apprenticeship and rebuild his life in the skilled trades industry.

    With over 80,000 electricians needed every year through 2030, Brandon’s journey offers a real-world look at why so many people are leaving their desks behind for hands-on work — and how a career change to trades can bring purpose, stability, and pride.

    They talk about the emotional and financial leap of starting over, the reality of apprentice pay, what it’s like to explain the shift to your family, and how the right mentors can change everything. Brandon also shares the unfiltered truth about the union vs non-union electrician experience, and what it takes to go from shop helper to journeyman.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    • 00:00 – The electrician shortage: why 80,000 are needed every year
    • 02:35 – Meet Brandon McKane: from Trader Joe’s to trades
    • 07:10 – The pay cut, the leap, and family conversations
    • 12:42 – Apprenticeship reality: pay, training, and safety
    • 19:18 – Union vs non-union: pros, cons, and real numbers
    • 25:36 – Mentorship and learning from journeymen
    • 32:10 – Social media’s impact on the new generation of tradespeople
    • 38:20 – Why it’s never too late to start over
    • 44:55 – The future of electrification and opportunity

    KEY TAKEAWAYS:

    1. Why America needs 80,000 electricians a year — and where that demand is coming from
    2. How Brandon left a 15-year corporate career to start over at 36
    3. The truth about apprentice pay vs. long-term earnings
    4. Union vs non-union electricians: what he learned on both sides
    5. How tradespeople often earn more than many white-collar careers
    6. The mindset shift: finding purpose, progress, and pride in hands-on work
    7. Why mentorship and the right foreman can change your life
    8. How the trades can become more welcoming to everyone
    9. Why it’s never too late for a career change to trades

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Brandon McKane is a non-union apprentice electrician at Sunlight & Power (Berkeley, CA). After 15+ years in retail management, he made a career change to trades, attends night classes, and works on prevailing-wage solar projects. He’s passionate about safety, mentorship, craftsmanship, and helping others navigate how to become an electrician through the electrician apprenticeship route—union or non-union.

    KEYWORDS:

    electrician apprenticeship, skilled trades careers, electrician shortage 2030, union vs non-union electricians, career change to trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brandon McKane, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonjmckane/overlay/photo/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    33 min
  • Miller Welding Cobots Are Creating More Welding Jobs with Sam Noland

    Cobot welding, welding automation, and collaborative robots are transforming skilled trades careers amid a major welder shortage.

    Host Andrew Brown talks with Sam Noland of ITW Miller Welding Automation about how cobot welding empowers Tradespeople across Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, and Construction. They explore training, ROI, and how automation is elevating—not replacing—the Skilled Trades Industry.

    Whether you're a Contractor, Industry Expert, or student exploring Trades Careers, this episode uncovers how collaborative robots bridge technology and Craftsmanship, fueling the next generation of Problem-solving and Creativity in the Trades Industry.

    IN THIS EPISODE:
    • (00:00) — What cobot welding is and why it’s reshaping Skilled Trades Careers.
    • (06:12) — How collaborative robots extend the careers of veteran welders and reduce fatigue.
    • (12:45) — The welder shortage: how automation and trade-school reform create opportunity.
    • (19:30) — Real-world welding automation ROI and cost breakdown for small shop owners.
    • (27:05) — Partnering with Toolfetch, Contractors, and Industry Experts for training and Education.
    • (33:50) — Future of Skilled Trades: how Automation, Craftsmanship, and Advocacy intersect.

    Key Takeaways:
    1. Cobot welding and welding automation expand—not eliminate—jobs by enhancing Craftsmanship and efficiency in Skilled Trades.
    2. Collaborative robots speed up production while keeping quality high, addressing the growing welder shortage.
    3. Skilled trades careers in HVAC, Carpentry, Electricians, Plumbers, and Millwrights are evolving to include robotics and automation skills.
    4. Partnerships with Toolfetch, Industry Experts, and the Skilled Trades Advisory Council are critical to advancing Education, Problem-solving, and Creativity in the Trades Industry.

    About the Guest:

    Sam Noland is an Advanced Process Specialist at ITW Miller Welding Automation, where he leads initiatives in cobot welding and welding automation integration for global manufacturing clients. A champion for Tradespeople and Skilled Trades Education, Sam helps shops leverage collaborative robots to boost quality, efficiency, and career longevity. His work embodies the next evolution of Craftsmanship—where technology meets human skill.

    Keywords:

    Cobot Welding, Welding Automation, Collaborative Robots, Welder Shortage, Skilled Trades Careers, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Tradespeople, Contractors, Industry Experts, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Education, Advocacy, Andrew Brown, Sam Noland

    Resource Links:

    LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-noland-66285262/

    40 min
  • Welding the American Dream: How John King Built Success Without College or Connections

    Welding careers, skilled trades, and welding apprenticeship programs take center stage as Andrew Brown sits down with John King of JK Welding at the FABTECH welding expo.

    Host Andrew Brown explores how welding careers grow through passion, not just pay, and why Skilled Trades like construction, HVAC, plumbing, and carpentry remain the backbone of the Trades Industry. From welding apprenticeship programs to pipeline welding jobs, John King shares his real-world lessons on leadership, craftsmanship, and mentoring the next generation of tradespeople.

    If you’re curious about trades careers, the Skilled Trades Advisory Council, or how to scale a fabrication business like JK Welding, this episode delivers practical guidance for aspiring industry experts, contractors, and hands-on creators.

    IN THIS EPISODE:
    • (00:00) – Welding Careers & Passion: Why passion fuels long-term success in the Skilled Trades and welding careers more than money ever could.
    • (07:45) – Gen Z & Apprenticeship Programs: How to build a stronger welding apprenticeship pipeline and inspire new tradespeople through education.
    • (16:20) – Is Welding a Dying Trade?: The truth about the Trades Industry shortage and how pipeline welding jobs offer growth opportunities.
    • (24:05) – From Welder to Entrepreneur: John King on building JK Welding, scaling with craftsmanship, and leading skilled contractors.
    • (33:10) – Career Growth Paths: How trades careers in construction, millwrighting, and electricians compare to pipeline welding jobs for earning potential.
    • (42:30) – Skilled Trades Advocacy: How the Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, and industry experts strengthen education across the trades.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS:

    ● Welding careers begin with passion. The most successful tradespeople master craftsmanship, problem-solving, and creativity before chasing paychecks.

    ● Welding apprenticeship programs are the cornerstone of education in the Trades Industry, helping Gen Z build lifelong trades careers.

    ● Pipeline welding jobs and field work can lead to six-figure incomes—but balance matters for family life and stability.

    ● Collaboration among industry experts, contractors, Toolfetch, and the Skilled Trades Advisory Council drives advocacy and long-term sustainability for the Skilled Trades.

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    John King, founder and CEO of JK Welding, transformed his love for welding into one of Texas’s leading fabrication shops. A self-taught entrepreneur, John built his company on craftsmanship, problem-solving, and mentorship—helping grow welding apprenticeship opportunities for the next generation of tradespeople. His leadership in the Trades Industry has made him a respected voice for education, advocacy, and Skilled Trades innovation showcased at the FABTECH welding expo.

    Keywords

    Welding Careers, Skilled Trades, Welding Apprenticeship, Pipeline Welding Jobs, FABTECH Welding Expo, Trades Industry, Construction, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Contractors, Industry Experts, Craftsmanship, Problem-Solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Education, Advocacy

    Resource Links:

    LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-king-15675117/

    Website: https://jkwelding.net/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jkwelding/

    SUPPORT THE SHOW:

    If you’re getting value from these episodes and want to help keep the mics on, consider tipping the show here → https://andrewbrowntrades.kit.com/products/toolbox

    Every dollar helps us keep bringing unfiltered insights from the trades, straight to your ears.

    46 min

About The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

From the publisher's feed

Welcome to The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades, the ultimate podcast dedicated to celebrating and exploring the world of skilled trades. Hosted by Andrew Brown, a passionate advocate for the trades industry, this podcast is your go-to source for knowledge, inspiration, and practical advice. Andrew brings a unique perspective shaped by years of hands-on experience, entrepreneurial success, and a deep commitment to elevating the trades.

Best of The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

Ranked by our users in the last 21 days

More shows like The Lost Art Of the Skilled Trades

The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan

The Joe Rogan Experience

227,532 Listeners

The Briefing with Albert Mohler by R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

The Briefing with Albert Mohler

8,583 Listeners

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von by Theo Von

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

27,937 Listeners

The Shawn Ryan Show by Shawn Ryan

The Shawn Ryan Show

46,045 Listeners

The Tucker Carlson Show by Tucker Carlson Network

The Tucker Carlson Show

15,948 Listeners