The Murders at White House Farm: The Podcast

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For the sixth and final episode of the companion podcast to HBO Max’s The Murders At White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco talks to series Executive Producer Willow Grylls about the fallout of the case. Not only was it one of the most shocking events of the time, but the murders and their investigation had far-reaching and long-lasting consequences, the effects of which can still be seen and felt today. Among many other things, Willow explains the impact that the case had on the surviving members of the family, the way police investigations are conducted -- especially in terms of how forensic evidence is handled -- and how the widespread attitude towards mental health colored the investigation at the time and has shifted in the years since. 

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For this fifth episode of the companion podcast to HBO Max’s The Murders At White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco talks to series writer Kris Mrksa to dive into the psychology of the case, and the many personas involved. Kris discusses his processes for bringing the various different characters involved to life -- including Jeremy Bamber’s complex and confusing personality -- as well as his approach to depicting Sheila Caffell’s mental health struggles. Kris also discusses what it was like to tread the fine line between reality and its onscreen counterpart, his processes for getting inside the characters’ heads, and what he means by “the slippery nature of truth.”

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In this fourth episode of the companion podcast to HBO Max’s The Murders At White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco again talks with Carol Ann Lee -- author of the highly-researched book upon which the series is based -- this time, to discuss the many missteps taken by the police in the way they handled the investigation of the murders. Carol explains how, as the investigation continued under the guidance of DCI Taff Jones, he refused to consider the possibility that what happened was anything other than a straightforward case of murder-suicide. Carol explains how Taff Jones' steadfast belief that Sheila Caffell had killed her parents and twin sons before turning the gun on herself, had shaped the way the entire investigation was conducted, leading to the repeated breach of police protocol. She also discusses how the equally stubborn mindset of DS Stan Jones -- and his doubts about the likelihood of that initial murder-suicide narrative -- ultimately helped alter the course of the police investigation.

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For the third episode of the companion podcast to HBO Max’s The Murders At White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco talks to Carol Ann Lee. As the author of the highly-researched book about that fatal night -- and upon which the series is based -- Carol shares her insight into the evidence found at the murder scene. She explains how that evidence initially seemed to suggest that what transpired was a murder-suicide rampage by Sheila Caffell against her adoptive parents and twin sons, but how, on further examination, it seemed that actually wasn’t the case at all. In fact, as evidence came to light -- as well as new conclusions about the original evidence -- suspicions instead started turning towards Sheila’s brother, Jeremy Bamber.

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In this second, highly emotional episode of the companion podcast to HBO Max’s The Murders At White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco speaks with Colin Caffell, father of the two youngest victims, and the ex-husband of initial suspect Sheila Caffell, whose body was discovered by police at the scene of the crime with the murder weapon. In what he has said will be his last ever public interview about that night and the drama to subsequently unfold, Colin goes into great detail about the complicated family dynamic between him, Sheila, her parents, and her brother Jeremy, before that fateful night changed everything. Colin also discusses coping with trauma, the damaging effects of the tabloid press coverage, and his reactions to watching the series for the first time.

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In this first episode of the companion podcast to HBO Max’s The Murders At White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco speaks with director Paul Whittington about how he set the stage for the limited series by working with those closest to the real life case. Providing American listeners with deeper context on mid-'80s Essex, England, Whittington describes how he authentically brought the past to life and shaped both the physical and emotional environment for the harrowing drama -- capturing the pain endured by those involved, and evoking the mood of the country as a whole as it witnessed the entire case unfold.

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On the night of August 6th, 1985 in Essex, England, a shocking attack left five members – and three generations – of a family brutally murdered. At first, the police thought they were dealing with an open-and-shut case of murder-suicide, suspecting that it was Sheila Caffell – diagnosed with schizophrenia – who had shot her adoptive parents and her twin sons before turning the gun on herself. As one detective set out to prove, however, certain elements of that narrative that didn’t add up – and the spotlight turned onto Sheila’s brother, Jeremy Bamber.

In the new companion podcast to the HBO Max miniseries The Murders at White House Farm, host Lauren Bright Pacheco chats with the show’s creators, historical experts, and individuals affected by the White House Farm murders in real life. Each episode of the podcast springboards off of a particular episode of the series to take a deeper dive into one of six nuanced themes that contributed to the disturbing nature of this surprisingly complicated case. 

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