In episode 11, I talk about the Jackson Browne albums The Naked Ride Home and Time the Conqueror with Rolling Stone writer and editor Jonathan Bernstein. Follow him on Twitter at @jonbern and follow myself and this show at @routinelayup. You can email me at [email protected]. 

After a brief intro and a look at the original 2002 review by James Hunter, our conversation starts around the 3 minute mark. I jump in midway through to look at the 2008 Time the Conqueror review, also by James Hunter, before jumping right back into our conversation. 

The Phoebe Bridgers/Jackson Browne song you hear early on is a cover of Christmas Song by McCarthy Trenching: http://www.mccarthytrenching.com/

You can read Jonathan’s Blake Mills story in which he quotes Jackson Browne: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/blake-mills-interview-mutable-set-1008984/

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