The Lede

The Nomad State — with Marie Favereau and Faisal Al Yafai


Listen Later

For most of human history, settled people have lived in fear of conquest by their powerful nomadic neighbors. Most powerful of all was the Mongol Empire, which brought most of Eurasia under their rule for almost 300 years. But in this second episode on nomads, Marie Favereau, a historian at Paris Nanterre University, says that the Mongols have been either neglected by history or unfairly represented as mindlessly destructive barbarians. Her book, “The Horde: How the Mongols Changed the World,” was written to change all that.

The use of the word horde, she says, was quite intentional, given the negative connotations associated with the word today: “It's a very old word especially in Asian culture and Indo-Asian languages,” she tells New Lines magazine’s Faisal Al Yafai. “The word itself means an organized nomadic state. I think it's important to think about the words we use and, you know, how we can change the meaning.”

Historians have to put their bias aside and be fair in examining the record, she says, which can help us start to see the benefits and rationale behind the Mongols’ decisions. And there are lessons we can learn from the Mongols about how to strike a balance in our relationship to the natural environment and how to combat xenophobia: So long as they swore allegiance to the khan, the Mongols didn’t attempt to force their religion or way of life on their subjects.

But Favereau rejects any romanticized view of nomadic living.

“I know how difficult nomadic life can be. So the idea is not to say, ‘Oh, this is the ideal way of living.” Instead, when looking at past nomadic empires like the Mongols — and nomadic societies still in existence today — we can begin to envision different possibilities for living and doing today.

“It's important to know that it was not always like this,” she says.

Produced by Joshua Martin and Christin El-Kholy

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The LedeBy New Lines Magazine

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

27 ratings


More shows like The Lede

View all
The LRB Podcast by The London Review of Books

The LRB Podcast

291 Listeners

The Political Scene | The New Yorker by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

3,974 Listeners

Foreign Policy Live by Foreign Policy

Foreign Policy Live

603 Listeners

Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes by ECFR

Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

103 Listeners

The Foreign Desk by Monocle

The Foreign Desk

118 Listeners

The Take by Al Jazeera

The Take

543 Listeners

Independent Thinking by Chatham House

Independent Thinking

21 Listeners

The Rachman Review by Financial Times

The Rachman Review

141 Listeners

Hold Your Fire! by International Crisis Group

Hold Your Fire!

64 Listeners

On the Nose by Jewish Currents

On the Nose

233 Listeners

Ones and Tooze by Foreign  Policy

Ones and Tooze

345 Listeners

The Foreign Affairs Interview by Foreign Affairs Magazine

The Foreign Affairs Interview

439 Listeners

Past Present Future by David Runciman

Past Present Future

323 Listeners

Makdisi Street by Makdisi Bros.

Makdisi Street

470 Listeners

Drop Site News by Drop Site News

Drop Site News

469 Listeners