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 In this episode of the Definitely, Maybe Agile podcast, Dave and Peter talk to Marius de Beer, Senior Director of Digital Product Delivery at Aritzia, about the challenges and evolution of agile practices. After years of working on transformations at different organizations, Marius has distilled agile transformation down to four things: How you are measured, recognized, rewarded, and supported. This is an episode you won't want to miss!

This week's takeaways:

• Change itself has changed: Making change a natural part of learning, responding, and growing helps remove the fear and resistance associated with it.
• Applying the four principles at each organizational layer: It's important to consider the needs and recognition of the organization as a whole, not just individuals or teams.
• Instead of forcefully pushing tools and practices onto individuals or teams, providing support and focusing on how people are measured, recognized, and rewarded is more effective.

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