The Other 22 Hours

Joseph is a trio of sisters who have released 3 records via ATO, performed on Fallon, Conan, The Today Show, Ellen, Jools Holland, at Coachella, Lollapalooza, Newport Folk, Glastonbury, Outside Lands, and Bonnaroo, and supported The Shins, James Bay, Amos Lee, and more. They recently announced that Allie is choosing to step away from the band, so we discuss this at length - how she came to the decision, the other sisters' reception, what that looks like moving forward both creatively and emotionally, as well as how they navigate family dynamics in the band, approach everything with intentionality, and a whole lot more.

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Links:

• Joseph
• Bonnie Raitt on 'Wiser Than Me'
• JD McPherson
• Cayamo
• Lizzo
• Kasey Musgraves
• The Shins
• Fiona Apple
• Wiser Than Me - Julie Luis Dreyfus
• Patti Smith
• The Staves
• Ep 13 - Becca Mancari

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• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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We have a special episode this week - we are sharing Sarah Jarosz's conversation on Basic Folk podcast! Sarah is a multi-Grammy winning mandolin player and songwriter who has collaborated with the likes of Chris Thile, the Live From Here house band, Bela Fleck, Daniel Tashian, Ruston Kelly, and Natalie Hemby. In this conversation, Sarah and hosts Cindy Howes and Lizzie No talk about her experience with ​confidence using the ​Dunning–Kruger effect, in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. AKA Fake it till you make, AKA Leap and the net will appear. She also talks about her parents' influence on her early musicality and how her mom is doing with her cancer remission. An overall theme of this conversation is that Sarah never lost sight of her goal: keeping it all about the music and don’t let noise get in the way of your important work.

More on Basic Folk:

Basic Folk, honest conversations with folk musicians, features hosts Cindy Howes and the musician/known communist Lizzie No. The podcast approaches interviews with warmth, humor and insightful questions. Basic Folk fosters the folk community, but our definition of “folk” is extremely broad, so you’ll hear interviews from Molly Tuttle, Ben Harper, The Lone Bellow and many more.

You can listen to Basic Folk on The Bluegrass Situation Podcast Network, wherever you get podcasts or at BasicFolk.com

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Links:

• Sarah Jarosz
• Basic Folk
• Basic Folk on IG
• Lizzie No on IG

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• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
• The Other 22 Hours TikTok
• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Miko Marks is a singer/songwriter from Oakland California, who was a member of the CMT Next Women of Country class of 2022, has played the Grand Ol Opry, won multiple Independent Music Awards, and stepped away from a professional career for over a decade to raise her child and be present for her family. We talk about the choices to step back, as well as to return to performing and recording, how that changed her approach and outlook, grounding in your own path, making your world small, living the experiences you are having, your career as a spiritual journey, and more.

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Links:

• Miko Marks
• Patti Smith
• 'Wiser Than Me' Podcast
• CMA Fest
• Red Tone Records
• Kelly McCartney
• Ep 55 -  Rissi Palmer
• Ep 14 - Mark Erelli
• Ep  65 - Elliot Bronson

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• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
• The Other 22 Hours TikTok
• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Lilly Hiatt has released 5+ records via New West Records, has toured with Drive by Truckers, Margo Price, Aaron Lee Tasjan, has been nominated for Americana Association awards, and is the daughter of singer/songwriter John Hiatt. We talk to Lilly about learning to care about things outside of your career, protecting your inner knowing, deleting your instagram account at 20k followers and staying off of it, not paying attention to numbers, lessons learned from watching her father's career up close her whole life, and a whole lot more.

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Links:

• Lilly Hiatt
• Ep 1 - Aaron Lee Tasjan
• Ep 6 - Andrew Combs
• John Hiatt
• Maya De Vitry
• Ep 10 - Joe Pug
• Ep  44 - Laura Veirs
• No Doubt - 'Simple Kind of Life'
• The 5 Spot
• Ep 66 - Sean + Sara Watkins

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Social Media:

• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
• The Other 22 Hours TikTok
• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Evan Honer turned viral success of a Tyler Childers cover (50mil + streams), into success for his own music with over 250mil streams, and multiple 7-figure offers from most major labels - all of which he decline in favor of staying independent, opting to start his own label (Cloverdale) and helping other young artists gain streaming traction while maintaining ownership of their art. Our youngest guest to date, we talk to Evan about betting on yourself, navigating the frequent ups and downs and direction changes of a social media-centric approach to your career, using your platform and reach to boost and platform your peers, the simple pleasures when you get back from tour, and more.

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Links:

• Evan Honer
• Cloverdale Records
• NDPNDT Podcast
• Nic D
• Connor Price
• Pine Grove
• Noah Kahan
• Zach Bryan
• The Black Keys
• Ep 61 - Jim Sonefeld
• Jon Bellion
• Lizzie McAlpine
• Stem
• Kyle McAvoy
• Ep 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)

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Social Media:

• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
• The Other 22 Hours TikTok
• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Jesse Boykins III is a Jamaican-American, Grammy-nominated singer, songwriter, producer, and creative director who has released 5+ records independently and via Def Jam records, collaborated with Steve Lacy, Charlie Puth, Theophilus London, Calvin Harris, and others. We talk at length about advocating for yourself and your creative vision, knowing the tools you have in your toolbox and using the right one at the right time, honoring the mission of the project, saying yes to collaboration to lift others art, simplifying everything, and more.

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Links:

• Jesse Boykins III
• Def Jam
• Brooklyn First Saturdays
• Brooklyn Museum
• The Accountant (movie)
• Miguel
• Wilco
• UMPG
• Ninja Tune
• Harvey Mason Jr
• Congo Square

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Social Media:

• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
• The Other 22 Hours TikTok
• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Sara + Sean Watkins are Grammy winning musicians that are 2/3 of Nickel Creek (which they started with Chris Thile as kids), The Watkins Family Hour (which features Fiona Apple, Benmont Tench, Jon Brion, John C Riley, and rotating cast of incredible musicians), their own solo records, Sara is in I'm With Her (with Sara Jarosz & Aiofe O'Donovan), as well as collaborations with Jackson Browne, John Mayer, Blake Mills, Dawes, and many others. We talk about the power in diverse skillsets we gain both touring in a large variety of situations as well as various levels of business responsibilities, authenticity and humbleness (versus the emperors new clothes), never taking situations for granted, faking it, and a whole lot of laughs.

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Links:

• Sara Watkins
• Sean Watkins
• Watkins Family Hour
• Nickel Creek
• I'm With Her
• Dan Wilson
• Bryan Sutton
• Largo
• Ep 45 - Glen Phillips
• 'Let's Go (So We Can Get Back)' - Jeff Tweedy
• Vince Gill
• The Station Inn
• Jenny Lewis
• Chris Thile
• Michael Daves
• Benmont Tench
• The Decemberists
• John Prine
• Ep 5 - Shovels & Rope

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Eliot Bronson has released 6+ records over the past 12 years, both independently and via labels - with a handful produced by Dave Cobb - and he has also won numerous acclaimed songwriting competitions such as Kerrville and Chris Austin contest at Merlefest. Ditching the traditional label/publicist/manager route, Eliot has established a vibrant path that is 100% DIY, community-focused, and as he explains - more fulfilling than ever. We talk at length about that process and how he found himself there, debate the necessity of a whole label or publicity team, explore the idea of the artist in the center of the crowd versus up high and removed on stage, mindfulness practices, and more.

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Links:

• Eliot Bronson
• 30A Festival
• Ep 45 - Glen Phillips
• Ep 46 - Mary Chapin Carpenter
• CBS Saturday Morning
• 'That Thing You Do'
• Sam Harris - Waking Up
• 'Zen Mind Beginners Mind'
• Patty Griffin
• Emmylou Harris
• Chris Austin Song Contest (MerleFest)
• Gillian Welch
• Telluride Troubadour Songwriting Contest
• Kerrvile Songwriting Contest
• Melody Walker
• Rocky Mountain Folks Fest

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Social Media:

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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Rhett Miller is the lead singer for The Old 97's, a solo artist, a podcast host (Wheels Off, with almost 200 episodes), an author and a mental health advocate who has released records via labels such as Elektra, ATO and Verve, worked with artists such as Jon Brion, Rosanne Cash, The Decemberists, and Tori Amos, and fronted The Old 97's for over 30 years. We talk about the difference between feeling deserving and entitlement, navigating envy traps, diversification for creative pursuits and financial fear, authenticity and a whole lot more.

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Links:

• Rhett Miller
• The Old 97's
• Wheels Off Podcast
• Parson's School of Design/The New School
• Little, Brown Publishing
• Dan Santat
• 'This Is What I Do'
• Rounder Records
• Elektra
• Nick Lowe
• Neko Case
• David Bowie
• Rosanne Cash
• 'Big Brown Eyes'

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Chris Smither has released 20+ records so far in his 58 year career, had his songs recorded by the likes of Bonnie Raitt (who had a hit with his song 'Love Me Like a Man', and whom he's had a long working relationship with) and Emmylou Harris, and as you can imagine, he's seen all of the ups and downs and twists and turns in almost 6 decades of this career. We talk with him about all of this hard earned wisdom and experience, his zest for practicing, learning when to grab the reins and when to ride, his myriad hobbies including a voracious appetite for reading, and a whole lot more.

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Links:

• Chris Smither
• Club Passim
• Betsy Siggins
• Charles River Valley Boys
• Bonnie Raitt
• 'Love Me Like a Man'
• David Goodrich
• Stephen Bruton
• CS Lewis - 'The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe'
• Lord of the Rings Trilogy (book)
• Ep 46 - Mary Chapin Carpenter

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Social Media:

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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