Leyla McCalla is a Haitian-American artist who releases records on Anti- Records, is a member of Our Native Daughters, and has been commissioned to create music in conjunction with research at  Duke University. We talk about how living an artistic life, and demonstrating that to a younger generation, is a strong form of societal change, how she juggles immense projects as a mother of three, and how she weaves history and academia into her writing and creative process.

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• Leyla McCalla
• Our Native Daughters
• Iris Dement - Workin' On a World
• Radio Haiti
• Langston Hughes
• Carolina Chocolate Drops
• Western State Center

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Lucius have released 4 records of their own, as well as appearing on records with the likes of Roger Waters, Jackson Browne, The War On Drugs, Brandi Carlile, John Prine, Sheryl Crow, to name a FEW. We talk about how they juggle this insane schedule, partnership and collaboration, how they've constantly morphed and reinvented all while (and because of) keeping a loyal team behind them, co-writing for the first time, and the rejuvenating power in simple mundane chores.

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• Lucius
• Roger Waters
• David Lizmi
• Ditmas Park
• Cayamo
• Sixth Man

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Joe Pug sold 20,000 copies of his first record after handing out free sampler CDs, and has gone on to be a DIY champion with multiple records and a successful podcast - The Working Songwriter. We talk intricacies of running a business as a creative, prioritizing your time and attention throughout the creative process, career longevity, and the lessons in Dante's Inferno.

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• Joe Pug
• The Working Songwriter Podcast
• Dante's Inferno

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Lola Kirke is an actress/musician who was in Mozart in the Jungle, Winning time and others, and who's latest record "Woman for Sale" is out on Third Man Records. We talk about staying sane while juggling 2 different creative careers, how art is about giving not receiving, and what is counterculture.

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• Lola Kirke
• IMDB
• Grateful Dead - Long Strange Trip
• Tom Petty - Running Down a Dream Doc
• NY Times - Brooklyn Kids Shun Phones
• Lowell George - Thanks I'll Eat Here

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Melanie Charles is a genre bending artist/songwriter/producer who's performed with artists from Wynton Marsalis to SZA. We talk about artist freedom, the power of curiosity and exploration, balancing advocacy and self-care, and solitude in your creative practice.

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• Melanie Charles
• Make Jazz Trill Again Podcast
• The New School
• BRIC Jazz Fest
• Rashaan Roland Kirk
• Sun Ra - "Prophetica"
• WDR Big Band

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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BJ Barham releases music as American Aquarium. We go deep on the power of sticking to it, mining the depths as inspiration, sobriety, and keeping everything in-house.

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• American Aquarium
• Ship Station
• Joe Pug
• Hayes Carll
• Ron Pope
• Phil Sterk
• Musicians Corner

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Andrew Combs is an acclaimed singer-songwriter from Nashville via Dallas, with records released via New West, Loose Music (EU) and independently, and has toured with Shovels & Rope, Caitlin Rose, and NPR's Tiny Desk. We discuss how common stereotypes of artists are wrong and even detrimental, the healing and rejuvenating power of simply creating for the sake of creating, meditation, and sobriety in the music industry.

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• Andrew Combs
• Jordan Lehning
• Dom Billett
• Transcendental Meditation
• Ali Sperry
• Thich Nhat Hahn - Peace is Every Step

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• The Other 22 Hours Instagram
• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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The Milk Carton Kids are a Grammy-nominated duo who have released 6+ records. We talk about defining what success looks like on your own terms, setting boundaries to open doors, record making, and plenty of tangents and laughs.

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• The Milk Carton Kids
• Largo
• Vera Sola

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Kyshona is an acclaimed singer-songwriter, music therapist, and session singer. We talk about the importance of listening to yourself, carving out down-time for yourself, and the power of mission/artistic statements.

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• Kyshona
• Your Song
• Calendly

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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Aaron Lee Tasjan is a Grammy-nominated songwriter, multi-record artist, and former member of bands such as The New York Dolls, Semi Precious Weapons, and Drivin n' Cryin. Here we talk about slowing down to do less more meaningfully, inspiration from finding alternate outlets for your creativity, and weathering tough seasons in life.

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• Aaron Lee Tasjan
• "How to Write One Song" - Jeff Tweedy
• "When Things Fall Apart" - Pema Chodron
• Pitch Meeting

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• Michaela Anne Instagram
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

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