Topics - The government is under fire after 2 women in isolation were allowed to drive from Auckland to Wellington without being tested for Covid-19, then later both tested positive. We speak to Professor Kurt Krause the chair of Biochemistry at the University of Otago. A report into New Zealand's health sector made public yesterday has been described as a "once-in-a-generation overhaul to NZs health system. We speak to Professor Robin Gauld is the Director of the Centre for Health Systems that spans the Otago Medical and Business schools.