The Path Went Chilly

This is part 2 of 2 and will conclude the series on the murder of Diana Robertson and the potential murder of Mike Reimer.

December 12, 1985. 36-year old Mike Riemer and his 21-year old girlfriend Diana Robertson leave their home in Puyallup, Washington to take their two-year old daughter, Crystal, out for a day in the woods to get a Christmas tree. That afternoon, Crystal is discovered wandering alone outside a Kmart, but is unable to tell anyone where her parents are. Two months later, Diana is found murdered outside Mike’s truck on a remote logging road with a tube sock tied around her neck, but Mike himself has gone missing. Police begin to suspect that Mike killed Diana and could have been responsible for the murders of another couple from the area. In that case, a tube sock was also tied around the female victim’s neck. In 2011, a skull fragment belonging to Mike is found a mile away from where Diana was killed. Did Mike commit these murders, drop off his daughter, and return to the scene to commit suicide? Or was an unknown serial killer responsible for the deaths of all four of these victims? We attempt to answer these perplexing questions in this week’s episode of “The Path Went Chilly''

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Additional Reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral,_Washington_murders

https://unsolved.com/gallery/diana-robertson/

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/skull-discovery-revives-washington-murder-mystery/

Robin, Jules and Ashley dive into this mysterious case over two parts. This is part one of two. December 12, 1985. 36-year old Mike Riemer and his 21-year old girlfriend Diana Robertson leave their home in Puyallup, Washington to take their two-year old daughter, Crystal, out for a day in the woods to get a Christmas tree. That afternoon, Crystal is discovered wandering alone outside a Kmart, but is unable to tell anyone where her parents are. Two months later, Diana is found murdered outside Mike’s truck on a remote logging road with a tube sock tied around her neck, but Mike himself has gone missing. Police begin to suspect that Mike killed Diana and could have been responsible for the murders of another couple from the area. In that case, a tube sock was also tied around the female victim’s neck. In 2011, a skull fragment belonging to Mike is found a mile away from where Diana was killed. Did Mike commit these murders, drop off his daughter, and return to the scene to commit suicide? Or was an unknown serial killer responsible for the deaths of all four of these victims? We attempt to answer these perplexing questions in this week’s episode of “The Path Went Chilly”.

Additional Reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral,_Washington_murders

https://unsolved.com/gallery/diana-robertson/

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/skull-discovery-revives-washington-murder-mystery/

Welcome back to part five, the conclusion of Tommy Zeigler and the furniture store murders, as Robin, Jules & Ashley dig into Robin's pet case.

Christmas Eve 1975. Winter Garden, Florida. Police respond to call for help at the W.T. Zeigler Furniture Store and find one of the store’s owners, 30-year old Tommy Zeigler, bleeding from a gunshot wound to the abdomen. Inside, they discover that four people have been murdered: Tommy’s wife, Eunice Zeigler; her parents, Perry and Virginia Edwards; and a customer named Charlie Mays. Tommy claims he was attacked and shot by unknown intruders, but authorities believe Tommy committed the murders himself and that his gunshot wound is self-inflicted. Months later, he is put on trial and sentenced to death. However, the prosecution’s case was shaky at best and over the years, evidence has emerged to cast doubt on the conviction. Tommy Zeigler has remained on death row for over 40 years, but has never stopped maintaining his innocence and his supporters continue to fight to get him released. This is undoubtedly the most convoluted case “The Trail Went Cold” has ever profiled, so we will be making this a two-part episode. This week, Part 1 will chronicle the incredible series of events surrounding this horrific crime and the controversial trial of Tommy Zeigler.

Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold


Additional Reading:

“Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town” by Philip Finch

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-tommy-zeigler-medill-justice-project-20160308-story.html

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/defense-seeks-touch-dna-to-question-death-row-inmates-guilt/2236115

http://tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com

Promo: Crimelines

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494

Music: Paul Rich @PaulRich_Actor @coldcallers

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

This is a link to the most recent developments in the Tommy Zeigler case regarding DNA testing:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2021/05/20/state-attorney-agrees-to-let-tommy-zeigler-perform-dna-testing/

Welcome back to part four of Tommy Zeigler and the furniture store murders, as Robin, Jules & Ashley dig into Robin's pet case.

Christmas Eve 1975. Winter Garden, Florida. Police respond to call for help at the W.T. Zeigler Furniture Store and find one of the store’s owners, 30-year old Tommy Zeigler, bleeding from a gunshot wound to the abdomen. Inside, they discover that four people have been murdered: Tommy’s wife, Eunice Zeigler; her parents, Perry and Virginia Edwards; and a customer named Charlie Mays. Tommy claims he was attacked and shot by unknown intruders, but authorities believe Tommy committed the murders himself and that his gunshot wound is self-inflicted. Months later, he is put on trial and sentenced to death. However, the prosecution’s case was shaky at best and over the years, evidence has emerged to cast doubt on the conviction. Tommy Zeigler has remained on death row for over 40 years, but has never stopped maintaining his innocence and his supporters continue to fight to get him released. This is undoubtedly the most convoluted case “The Trail Went Cold” has ever profiled, so we will be making this a two-part episode. This week, Part 1 will chronicle the incredible series of events surrounding this horrific crime and the controversial trial of Tommy Zeigler.

Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold

Additional Reading:

“Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town” by Philip Finch

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-tommy-zeigler-medill-justice-project-20160308-story.html

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/defense-seeks-touch-dna-to-question-death-row-inmates-guilt/2236115

http://tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com

Promo: It's Murder Up North

Music: Paul Rich @PaulRich_Actor @coldcallers

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

Tune in this week for part three of the series on Tommy Zeigler and the Furniture Store Murders, as Robin, Jules & Ashley dig into Robin's pet case.

Christmas Eve 1975. Winter Garden, Florida. Police respond to call for help at the W.T. Zeigler Furniture Store and find one of the store’s owners, 30-year old Tommy Zeigler, bleeding from a gunshot wound to the abdomen. Inside, they discover that four people have been murdered: Tommy’s wife, Eunice Zeigler; her parents, Perry and Virginia Edwards; and a customer named Charlie Mays. Tommy claims he was attacked and shot by unknown intruders, but authorities believe Tommy committed the murders himself and that his gunshot wound is self-inflicted. Months later, he is put on trial and sentenced to death. However, the prosecution’s case was shaky at best and over the years, evidence has emerged to cast doubt on the conviction. Tommy Zeigler has remained on death row for over 40 years, but has never stopped maintaining his innocence and his supporters continue to fight to get him released. This is undoubtedly the most convoluted case “The Trail Went Cold” has ever profiled, so we will be making this a two-part episode. This week, Part 1 will chronicle the incredible series of events surrounding this horrific crime and the controversial trial of Tommy Zeigler.

Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold

Additional Reading:

“Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town” by Philip Finch

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-tommy-zeigler-medill-justice-project-20160308-story.html

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/defense-seeks-touch-dna-to-question-death-row-inmates-guilt/2236115

http://tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com

Promo: A Murder In My Family

Music: Paul Rich @PaulRich_Actor @coldcallers

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

Tune in this week for part twp of the series on Tommy Zeigler and the Furniture Store Murders, as Robin, Jules & Ashley dig into Robin's pet case.

Christmas Eve 1975. Winter Garden, Florida. Police respond to call for help at the W.T. Zeigler Furniture Store and find one of the store’s owners, 30-year old Tommy Zeigler, bleeding from a gunshot wound to the abdomen. Inside, they discover that four people have been murdered: Tommy’s wife, Eunice Zeigler; her parents, Perry and Virginia Edwards; and a customer named Charlie Mays. Tommy claims he was attacked and shot by unknown intruders, but authorities believe Tommy committed the murders himself and that his gunshot wound is self-inflicted. Months later, he is put on trial and sentenced to death. However, the prosecution’s case was shaky at best and over the years, evidence has emerged to cast doubt on the conviction. Tommy Zeigler has remained on death row for over 40 years, but has never stopped maintaining his innocence and his supporters continue to fight to get him released. This is undoubtedly the most convoluted case “The Trail Went Cold” has ever profiled, so we will be making this a two-part episode. This week, Part 1 will chronicle the incredible series of events surrounding this horrific crime and the controversial trial of Tommy Zeigler.

Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold

Additional Reading:

“Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town” by Philip Finch

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-tommy-zeigler-medill-justice-project-20160308-story.html

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/defense-seeks-touch-dna-to-question-death-row-inmates-guilt/2236115

http://tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com

Promo: A Murder In My Family

Music: Paul Rich @PaulRich_Actor @coldcallers

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

This week (and for the following four, five parts total) Robin, Jules & Ashley dig into Robin's pet case.

Christmas Eve 1975. Winter Garden, Florida. Police respond to call for help at the W.T. Zeigler Furniture Store and find one of the store’s owners, 30-year old Tommy Zeigler, bleeding from a gunshot wound to the abdomen. Inside, they discover that four people have been murdered: Tommy’s wife, Eunice Zeigler; her parents, Perry and Virginia Edwards; and a customer named Charlie Mays. Tommy claims he was attacked and shot by unknown intruders, but authorities believe Tommy committed the murders himself and that his gunshot wound is self-inflicted. Months later, he is put on trial and sentenced to death. However, the prosecution’s case was shaky at best and over the years, evidence has emerged to cast doubt on the conviction. Tommy Zeigler has remained on death row for over 40 years, but has never stopped maintaining his innocence and his supporters continue to fight to get him released. This is undoubtedly the most convoluted case “The Trail Went Cold” has ever profiled, so we will be making this a two-part episode. This week, Part 1 will chronicle the incredible series of events surrounding this horrific crime and the controversial trial of Tommy Zeigler.

Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold

Additional Reading:

“Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town” by Philip Finch

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-tommy-zeigler-medill-justice-project-20160308-story.html

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/defense-seeks-touch-dna-to-question-death-row-inmates-guilt/2236115

http://tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com

Promo: Murder In Alliance

Music: Paul Rich @PaulRich_Actor @coldcallers

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

On April 9, 1997, Judy Smith, a 50-year old wife and mother from Newton, Massachusetts, decided to accompany her husband, Jeff, on a business trip to Philadelphia. The following day, Judy set out to do some sightseeing in the city while her husband attended a conference. When Jeff returned to their hotel that night, Judy was not there and she could not be found anywhere in the city. Five months later, Judy’s skeletal remains would be discovered in a mountainous area… 600 miles away in North Carolina! The evidence indicated foul play, but eyewitness sightings seemed to suggest that Judy had traveled to the area voluntarily. Did Judy take an impromptu 600-mile trip without telling her family and if so, how did she wind up dead in the Appalachian Mountains? Join me for a new episode of “The Trail Went Cold”, as I analyze the truly baffling unexplained death of Judy Smith.

Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold

Additional Reading:

http://unsolved.com/archives/judy-smith

http://citypaper.net/articles/071797/article010.shtml

http://citypaper.net/articles/072497/article015.shtml

http://citypaper.net/articles/100297/cb.smith.shtml

http://citypaper.net/articles/100997/cb.buncombe.shtml

http://articles.philly.com/1997-10-05/news/25540618_1_detectives-medical-examiner-crime-scene

Promo: Marriage in Alliance (Obsessed Network)

Music by @PaulRich_Actor from Cold Callers Comedy Podcast @coldcallers
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/cold-callers-comedy/id437588267

Art by @fleshwadYT
[email protected]
youtube.com/c/fleshwad

Welcome to our Patreon Preview: Jules and Ashley (the name of our Patreon launches on JUNE 1st and we wanted to give you a sneak peak of the kind of content we will be creating)

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20 year old student Lauren Spierer would disappear under mysterious circumstances after a night out with friends at a sports bar Kilroy's in Indiana. Was this stranger abduction? a known serial killer in the area? a neighborhood flasher? or was this someone closer to Lauren....
Sources:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/long-qt-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20352518

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3046251/

https://archive.ph/20130629105223/http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/08/16/news.qp-4595934.sto

https://web.archive.org/web/20140305051044/http://archive.indystar.com/article/20130531/NEWS/305310035/Timeline-search-Lauren-Spierer

https://www.foxnews.com/us/two-years-later-mystery-surrounds-disappearance-of-indiana-university-student-lauren-spierer

https://abcnews.go.com/US/lauren-spierer-case-years-vanished-hope/story?id=40084230

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/02/missing-student-boyfriend-family-fume/2382909/

https://fox59.com/news/fbi-bloomington-police-investigate-martinsville-location-in-ongoing-lauren-spierer-investigation/

https://web.archive.org/web/20111114161017/http://www.usatodayeducate.com/staging/index.php/ccp/friends-of-lauren-spierer-reflect-take-action

https://web.archive.org/web/20120606001805/http://www.lohud.com/article/20120603/NEWS02/306030045/

https://web.archive.org/web/20150429114706/http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/28916648/police-probe-link-between-murdered-iu-student-disappearance-of-lauren-spierer

https://web.archive.org/web/20150710112324/http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2015/07/08/beau-dietl-associates-investigates-speculated-similarities-between-two-homicide-and-disap

https://archive.ph/20130629110715/http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/08/26/news.qp-6747285.sto

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/fbi-investigating-house-in-martinsville

https://people.com/crime/hannah-wilson-murder-echoes-lauren-spierer-disappearance-in-2011/

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/lauren-spierers-family-still-searching-9-years-after-her-disappearance

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lauren-spierer-parents-lawsuit_n_3511799

https://www.wave3.com/2021/01/18/missing-iu-student-would-have-turned-years-old-sunday/

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2nsldv/what_is_your_theory_of_the_lauren_spierer_case/

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

On April 9, 1997, Judy Smith, a 50-year old wife and mother from Newton, Massachusetts, decided to accompany her husband, Jeff, on a business trip to Philadelphia. The following day, Judy set out to do some sightseeing in the city while her husband attended a conference. When Jeff returned to their hotel that night, Judy was not there and she could not be found anywhere in the city. Five months later, Judy’s skeletal remains would be discovered in a mountainous area… 600 miles away in North Carolina! The evidence indicated foul play, but eyewitness sightings seemed to suggest that Judy had traveled to the area voluntarily. Did Judy take an impromptu 600-mile trip without telling her family and if so, how did she wind up dead in the Appalachian Mountains? Join me for a new episode of “The Trail Went Cold”, as I analyze the truly baffling unexplained death of Judy Smith.
Support the show:

Patreon.com/julesandashley

Patreon.com/thetrailwentcold


Additional Reading:

http://unsolved.com/archives/judy-smith

http://citypaper.net/articles/071797/article010.shtml

http://citypaper.net/articles/072497/article015.shtml

http://citypaper.net/articles/100297/cb.smith.shtml

http://citypaper.net/articles/100997/cb.buncombe.shtml

http://articles.philly.com/1997-10-05/news/25540618_1_detectives-medical-examiner-crime-scene

Promo: What's the Channel

Art: @fleshwadYT
[email protected]

Music: Paul Rich @coldcallers @PaulRich_Actor