An early start and a late finish for the crew today. David Burns joins us from Bali, 13 hours in the future! (Yes, I forgot to ask him for the lottery numbers.) An industry hawspiper who earned his way from the fire kitchens in London to a 6-month visa in Australia that is going on 30 years. This episode is quite tactical and contextual to those that want to start a new brand with their "soon to be famous" products!