The Podcasters Podcast

Louie talks about how you can attract the right listeners to your podcast. He explains why attracting the right listener matters, sharing tips and tools on how you can figure out your audience and niche and get the right people listening to your show.

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Episode Takeaways

BEST MOMENTS

“What do you give and how can you connect with someone?”

“What are their hobbies, interests, desires? All that psychoanalytical stuff!”

“Who you’re aiming for depends on what you’re making and where you put it”

“People underestimate places like forums and Facebook groups, everyone is obsessed with TikTok”

“Experiment with platforms and with people”

VALUABLE RESOURCES

https://rephonic.com/graph

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ABOUT THE HOST

Louie Rider

https://www.linkedin.com/in/louie-rider1403/

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Why start a podcast? Join Louie in this episode to discover why now is the perfect time to start podcasting, including the many benefits of podcasting and how to figure out your own ‘why’. He also shares how you can get started in podcasting and a bit about his own journey into the media and podcasting space.

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Episode Takeaways

• Podcasting was initially audio only, but has developed to be so much more, and video is now a key element to any successful podcast

• Before starting your podcast, figure out what it is you want to get from podcasting and what you are passionate about.

• Being passionate about the topic of your podcast is essential to maintain content and your own interest!

• Think about the formatting and structure of your show, including how to keep it engaging to your audience.

• Podcasting gives you the opportunity to create a community and bring your audience into in person meet-ups and events.

• Branding matters, whether that is a personal brand based on who you are or more of a business brand, it’s important to plan and think about what this will look like.

BEST MOMENTS

“You want to be part of the podcasting zeitgeist”

“You’ve got to be passionate about whatever you choose to do”

“You’ve got to find your space”

“It’s very valuable to have something that has a reputation behind it”

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

Want to get into podcasting but need a little push? Join our 3-day Podcasting event in Peterborough! – Get in touch for details.

ABOUT THE HOST

Louie Rider

https://www.linkedin.com/in/louie-rider1403/

CONNECT & CONTACT

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LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

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In this episode of The Podcasters Podcast, host Louie Rider interviews Rob Moore on how he DISRUPTED the podcasting industry with his show Disruptors. Rob reflects on his extensive experience in podcasting, sharing insights on maintaining consistency, generating ideas, and the importance of passion in creating engaging content. He emphasises the value of having a clear vision for your podcast and the necessity of adapting to audience preferences. The conversation also touches on the significance of having a supportive team behind the scenes, the role of production quality, and the art of interviewing, highlighting how to respect guests while navigating challenging conversations. With plans for the next 100 episodes, Louie aims to revamp the podcast by incorporating diverse perspectives from the Progressive Media team, ensuring that the show continues to provide valuable insights for aspiring podcasters.

Episode Takeaways

• What’s next for The Podcasters Podcast

• The many benefits of Podcasting

• What Rob attributes his Podcast success to

• How to be successful in Podcasting

• What Rob has learnt from Podcasting for over a decade

• What Disruptive means to Rob

BEST MOMENTS

“Podcasting's one of the greatest things you can do in your life. You meet amazing people. It doesn't feel like work.”

“ I've got too many stupid ideas. Um, so I have to do the opposite of what a lot of people do is, is be a bit more selective. 'cause I just get excited.” 

"Number one is you, you want to have a podcast on the subject that you're passionate about, because we all stay consistent about things, we're passionate about. When it gets hard, the interest, the passion, the curiosity keeps you going. "

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOST

Louie Rider

https://www.linkedin.com/in/louie-rider1403/

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

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This is the final episode of The Podcasters Podcast. Ash and Kane talk about why this will be the last episode of the show and what they plan next.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Ash and Kane have moved to Dubai to expand their business Podpartnership, that connects podcasters and brands for sponsorship deals and more.
• After almost 280 episodes, The Podcasters Podcast has covered almost anything anyone can think of to do with podcasting.

BEST MOMENTS

"We have put all our knowledge into that space into a business”

“We’re doubling down on the podcast industry” 

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off.

Ash and Kane interview Jason Graystone, a financial expert who made £12 million from a single YouTube video in just 10 months. Jason shares his philosophy of giving away everything for free, revealing how his approach built trust with his audience and led to great opportunities. From starting as an electrical engineer to becoming financially free by age 29, Jason talks to Ash and Kane about content creation, building communities and why business opportunities aren’t just about pure financial gain.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Jason's content strategy focuses on complete transparency. He shares his entire methodology for free, which created trust and led to millions in revenue as viewers sought his implementation guidance rather than just information.
• Jason maintains an exclusive community with 18,000 people on a waiting list while only accepting 30 new members monthly, creating a scarcity model that increases perceived value and ensures engagement among members.
• He achieved financial independence at 29, covering his living costs without relying on others and by 35 reached true financial freedom that would continue without his day to day involvement.
• His 2.5 hour YouTube videos attract committed learners, with many telling Jason they specifically chose his content because of its length, serving as an effective filter for serious audience members.
• Despite generating £1.8 million annually from his personal brand, Jason has never run paid advertising, relying entirely on organic content distribution and word of mouth.
• Jason created sophisticated multi step funnels that gradually introduce paid offerings after providing free value.
• After achieving financial security, Jason experienced a mental shift from accumulation to contentment, now evaluating opportunities based on whether they bring fulfilment rather than just financial gain.
• While Jason has managed a £50 million property portfolio, he considers his audience relationships his most valuable asset, opening doors to celebrity partnerships, speaking engagements and other business opportunities.

BEST MOMENTS

"From that one video, because of the funnel in the back end of that, we did 12 million in 10 months and that is direct proof that if you just give all of the information away, people wanna work with you even more." 

"Don't try and be profound. Understand how much value you've got inside you and think the person listening is five years behind or a year behind or a paragraph behind." 

"Information's a commodity for a start, but the mind shift comes when you realise that it's just about getting people to spend longer with you because the longer they spend with you, the more they trust you." 

"I've got people who've had tattoos of my logo on their skin. When they're sitting in a coffee shop and someone says, what's that? They're not gonna slag my thing off. They're gonna overtalk it so they don't feel like an idiot for having a tattoo." 

"I think people get imposter syndrome when they're lying. People get imposter syndrome when they're getting out of their lane and they start trying to be profound." 

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Jason Graystone

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

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Email: [email protected]

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Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off.

Ash and Kane discuss whether podcasting is better for brand building or lead generation. They share examples of how podcasting is great for both but also explain that while podcasting can generate high quality leads, its real power lies in building trust and creating long term opportunities.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Podcasting builds a brand better than it generates leads, it generally creates more value through indirect opportunities than direct monetisation.
• Authenticity is essential as overly sales focused content isn’t good for audience trust and long term brand value.
• Tim Ferriss leveraged his podcast brand to invest early in Uber, Facebook, Shopify, Duolingo and Twitter, showing how brand benefits can outweigh direct revenue.
• Podcast listeners often skip typical marketing funnel stages, converting directly to high ticket purchases. Podcast leads are typically fewer but higher quality so listeners are more likely to buy expensive products and services.
• Interview established names in your industry to build credibility by association, especially when you are first starting out.
• The podcasting opportunity hierarchy is to brand build first, lead nurturing second and lead generation third.

BEST MOMENTS

"If you overly focus on lead gen, that will affect your brand. The longer you can go without asking, the more you can ask for."

"The more human you are and the more you share opinions and what you believe in, that's what builds brand. Essentially it's like trust and when you build brand, you get loads of opportunities."

"Tim Ferris is one of the OG podcasters. It's been around like a decade, more than a decade, almost 15 years, really strong brand and because of his really strong brand, he was given the opportunity to invest in some of the biggest companies at a really early stage."

"I think it is not the best vehicle for your top of funnel... Anybody who normally reaches out to us from the podcast, they're buying our training or they're working with the agency. They're not doing like discovery calls, webinars, let me get on your email list."

"The podcast, I might get like less than 10 leads a month, but like they're buying really expensive products.”

"The brand you get isn't just through posting content and getting views, it's by being sat next to somebody who's already really respected and leveraging other people's brand."

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off.

Ash and Kane share creative ways podcasters and creators can partner with brands. Podcasters and brands don't need to settle for a boring pre-roll ad when there are so many interesting and productive ways to partner and collaborate. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Brands can create content that the podcaster takes part in, so it becomes an association between podcaster and the brand.
• Creators speaking at brand events is a creative way to embed a brand partnership and build authenticity too.
• Product placement is a simple but effective way for brands to partner with podcasts.
• Think about alternative ways you have a presence as a podcaster/creator and utilise that as an avenue with brands.

BEST MOMENTS

"I wanna be Jordan to Nike but it’s Ash and Kane and Riverside”

“Product placement is one”

“Doing things that have the creator involved with the brand in person, you can create content for both channels”

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off.

Ash and Kane share how brands and podcasters can find the right match with sponsorship. They reveal what both advertisers and podcasters can leverage to get the sponsorship right, including how brands can find the perfect audience match and how podcasters can position themselves to attract ideal sponsors.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Relevance trumps reach when choosing podcasts to sponsor. Find niche shows where your target audience aligns rather than mass-market podcasts with scattered audiences.
• Look for creators who are famous to a few in their specific niche, as their recommendations hold significant weight with followers who trust their opinion.
• Average viewer duration matters more than view count. Ensure audiences actually consume the portions where your ad will appear before investing.
• Research what competitors a podcaster has previously endorsed. Multiple competing sponsors can signal audience recommendation fatigue and can mean your ad won’t be as effective.
• Always listen to a podcaster's previous ad reads to evaluate their authenticity. The way they deliver ads for other brands indicates how they'll represent yours too.
• Long term partnerships are a strong signal for success, try and prioritise podcasters who maintain ongoing relationships with sponsors.
• Verify audience demographics for legitimacy, unusual geographic distributions (like a US business podcast with 60% Indian listeners) could indicate buying followers.
• Sponsors earned $4.90 for every dollar spent on podcast advertising last year. You're not just buying ad space, you're purchasing years of established trust between host and audience.

BEST MOMENTS

" The sentiment of this episode is relevance, not reach.”

"Someone said to Matt, 'whatever you recommend, I just buy' what a fucking endorsement that is. If you're a brand, you can find your specific audience and then find who is the person that they all know in that space and trust the opinion of." 

"Even if you have a script, you can make a script sound not like a script."

"Do they work with their partners in a way where they genuinely endorse the product and genuinely are trying to get results for them?" 

"On average, last year, sponsors make $4.90 for every dollar they spend. So it's a great place to be in and for the brand's benefit, you are buying trust that would normally take you years to build."

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off.

Ash and Kane talk about what you can pay for in podcasting to help you succeed. From software to studios, they discuss the pros of paying to win in podcasting.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Pay for high-quality production, this will give you better opportunities and make others want to work with you.
• Pay for guests, the content you get from a good guest can give you a great return.
• Hire an editor to make each episode perfect but also repurpose your content for other platforms and short form content.
• Paid marketing, such as paying to sponsor other podcasts. Sponsor the podcasts your audience is already listening to.

BEST MOMENTS

"In your first year, you could have 10 great guests and if you’re good on YouTube and TikTok you could blow up”

“Having really good production is one thing, but having really good post-production is really important as well”

“I know somebody who spent a lot of money with a guest booker so that they can’t work with other people”

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off.

Ash and Kane discuss the most hated podcasters in this episode. They reveal Google's top five most hated podcast hosts including Steven Bartlett, Joe Rogan, Logan Paul, Meghan Markle and Andrew Tate, exploring why these figures attract criticism despite their success!

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Steven Bartlett makes the list of most hated podcasters due to controversies around his business claims, association with Huel and because his interview style focused too much on making celebrities emotional.
• Joe Rogan appears on the list because of his massive success and controversial political interviews, hosting divisive guests can attract criticism regardless of the host's own personal views.
• Logan Paul's reputation suffered from the "Crypto Zoo" scandal, which was essentially a pump and dump scheme that cost followers millions.
• Meghan Markle's podcast failure after an alleged $20 million Spotify deal contributed to public criticism, with accusations she wasn't even present for guest recordings!
• Andrew Tate rounds out the list as one of the most Googled people in 2023, with his controversial views making him particularly reviled despite maintaining a long running podcast.
• Some podcasters, like Theo Von, seem to avoid significant backlash despite controversial content. Personality and delivery style definitely play a role in audience reception.
• Success inevitably attracts criticism, with the David Goggins quote: "You'll never find a hater doing better than you."

BEST MOMENTS

"Everyone loves to hate successful people. What's the David Goggins quote? You'll never find a hater doing better than you."

"Controversy sells but also he would interview people that had strong opinions... you end up getting all of the hate because you have essentially hosted this person. Even if it's not your opinions at all."

“I mean, everyone loves to hate Tate and he has extremely contrarian views, so that one barely needs explaining."

"Let me introduce you to gambling addiction... If you buy a shitty meme coin with all of your money like that, that some influencer promoted, who just appeared a month ago, you deserve to lose your money."

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Website

EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-podcaster-s-podcast/046-how-to-launch-a-number-1-podcast-part-2

Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI?

Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Ashley Morris (Podcast Consultant) and Kane Baron  (Public Speaker) help independent podcasters launch, grow and monetise a podcast. They run the UK’s largest podcast agency for independent creators, Progressive Media. Progressive Media take care of all things production, copywriting, design and video for podcasters round the globe. They have also recently launched Pod Partnerships, a new venture created to connect established podcasters with valuable audiences and innovative brands to create and manage win-win sponsorship campaigns.

CONNECT & CONTACT

Instagram

LinkedIn

Email: [email protected]

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices