The Progression Project

Kyle Lobisser (@projectcedrus) is the man behind the first hollow carbon mast. He's an engineer who started his career working for Boeing and Apple and has applied his knowledge and skills on designing and constructing the foiling mast built from aerospace carbon.

Hawaiian Waterman Jack Ho (@jackfromtown)comes back on the show to fill us in on his last year of foiling, surfing, racing, Lift Foils evolution, how racing is changing the sport, style and much more... Jack is one of the young guns leading the evolution in foiling.

Kahi (@instakahi) is a waterman from Oahu, HI. He's also on a mission to save and bring awareness to the state of our oceans with his role at Parley.tv. We talk the vibe difference between surf and foil, crowds, downwind, what it takes to make the A-team, his love of Takuma, and a possible big reveal???

Jim Bones, Bones (@jimbones808) is a lifelong waterman. This is a must listen episode as Bones' positivity, gratitude and outlook on life is something we should all aspire to. Huge thanks to Sky Rama (@sky.rama) for setting it up and taking part in the conversation. Cover art by Sky.

Adam Bennetts (@misterbennetts)spent the last year working with Cliffy from UniFoil to design the New Vyper foil. He comes on the show to discuss the process, what he's learned lately, how his stance has evolved, other foils he's been testing and much more...

Mateo Ell (@Mateo_Ell) is a pro foiler from Kauai. He's crushing it in every discipline and came on the show while in Jax Beach on route to the Foil Racing League where he won the SUP division and got 2nd in prone. This follows his win a few months back in Hood River. Mateo shares an insane downwind story, talks style, pumping tips, what foils he's riding, skill mapping, why he's loving kiting and Brian adds lots of color having spent years flying with Mateo in Kauai.

Knowing what we know now about foiling, how would Mike and I start foiling now. We talk first flights, boat, jetski and efoil, catching your first waves, benefits of SUP and prone, how to start pumping, what gear to ride and how to dial it in. If you're learning to foil or have a friend who is, this is the podcast for them...

Kane DeWilde (@kdmaui) returns to discuss what he's learned about foils in the last year, we discuss his secret foil surfing turn technique, how to tune foils, what commonalities he's finding in what we all like to ride and tons of listener questions.

Austin Tovey (@austintovey) is a world class waterman excelling in foil, kite, wake and wing. He threw the first tantrum in the surf and first raley behind the boat on foil. He is consistently landing 360 airs frontside and backside and goes huge on everything! Austin comes on to talk about the progression in foil airs, his incredible relationship with his dad/tow partner/foiler who is also as frothy as he is, how he sees skill-mapping, and what makes Jax Beach epic for a waterman. Plus tons more...

Chris Rasman is a professional freeride and competitive snowboarder now on the Natural Selection Tour. He's been foil brained in the offseason for the last few years and is taking his boardsports talent to surf and wing foiling. On the podcast we dive into how he's approaching learning foiling, how he's had to switch his mindset from freeride to competition, style, social media's influence on sports and athletes and skill mapping.