Hi there, and a very warm welcome to Season 6 Episode 48 of People Soup. It’s Ross McIntosh here.

Peace Soupers… welcome back to part two of my conversation with Miranda Birch.

In part one, we explored the power of really being heard — the kind of listening that creates space, sparks insight, and builds confidence.

In this episode, we go deeper.

We get into how conversations can unlock clarity — for leaders trying to make sense of their role, their message, and what really matters.

And what really struck me here is how aligned Miranda’s work is with mine.

She helps people find clarity through conversation.

I help leaders build psychological flexibility — moving forward with purpose, even when the mind gets noisy.

And at the heart of both?

Pausing… reflecting… and reconnecting with what matters.

You’ll hear:

1. How leaders can rediscover what drives them
2. Why clarity beats polish in communication

And how real, human conversation cuts through overwhelm.

For those of you who are new to People Soup - welcome - it's great to have you here - I aim to provide you with ingredients for a better work life from behavioural science and beyond. For those of you who are regular P Soupers - thanks for tuning in - we love it that you're part of our community.

• Connect with Miranda on LinkedIn
• The Richest Conversations – Helping your organisation to make more impact, through the voices of its founders, teams and clients

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