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  • DeFi by Design EP63: Cross-Chain Swaps Made Easy w Li Finance


    It’s exciting to see how the multi-chain world is shaping up for 2022. As various chains gain more traction and user activity, the ability to perform cross-chain swaps is going to be an absolute must.

    Today we got to chat with Philip Zentner, the CEO and Co-Founder of Li(nked).Finance (Li.Finance), a protocol that seeks to interconnect the most crucial parts of DeFi, namely DEXes and Bridges to create a mesh of aggregated cross-chain liquidity networks & protocols that allow users to complete cross-chain swaps from end-to-end. We discussed how users can be more efficient and effective in engaging in yield farming in the multi-chain setting, how the multi-chain world is going to create apps that most people won’t even realize are actually utilizing our favorite protocols on the backend of it, as well as how Li.Finance works and empowers users to navigate the various chains in a seamless and fluid manner.

    With a future that is multi-chain, protocols like Li.Finance are going to play a major role in paving the way for mass adoption.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


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    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    49 min
  • DeFi by Design EP62: Interest Rate Environment Impacts on DeFi w Notional Finance


    As Decentralized Finance continues to progress, we’re beginning to see more DeFi primitives pop up in the form of structured products. One of these are fixed rates, a primitive that exists on TradFi that is starting to be explored in DeFi. With yield becoming harder to find, fixed-rate products offer the ability to turn risk assets into guaranteed yield generating assets.

    Today we talked with Teddy Woodward, the Co-Founder of Notional, a fixed-rate lending & borrowing platform that has been in the space for 2 years now and recently launched both their v2 and protocol token 3 months ago. We go over Notional’s vision to become an institutional backend for services such as Coinbase Earn, how fixed-rate products open up a whole world of possibilites and how the decentralized nature of Notional allows DeFi savvy individuals to cut straight to the source instead of using centralized services to take full advantage of higher yields, and more.

    With the constant evolution of yields in DeFi and new products in the pipeline, Notional stands to be one of the pioneers in the CeDeFi Space.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


    Website: https://therollup.co/

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.

    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

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    Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh

    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.


    48 min
  • DeFi by Design EP61: InsurAce As A Core Building Block To DeFi


    Despite the advancements in the DeFi sector, cases of flash loans, rugpulls, private key hacks and smart contract vulnerabilities continue to increase. Despite DeFi insurance protocols having been in the space since 2020, the model still has ways to go as collateralizing risk and offering coverage isn’t as simple as it seems.

    Today we talked with Dan Thomson the CMO of InsurAce, one of the fastest growing decentralized multi-chain insurance protocol that has over 100 protocols protected, $34.6M in TVL and $206.8M in Total Value Covered across 16 blockchains. We went over the main reasons for DeFi exploits, how insurance works as well as the current state and pitfalls of DeFi Insurance Protocols.

    As more capital flows into the ecosystem, decentralized insurance protocols such as InsurAce will be crucial in making DeFi safer for everyone.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


    Website: https://therollup.co/

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.

    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

    Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco

    Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup

    Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy

    Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh

    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.


    48 min
  • DeFi by Design EP60: Onboarding Your Grandma Into DeFi with GOGOCoin


    We truly believe the future of finance (and France!) is DeFi and what we are seeing built now in Web3.

    Its truly exciting and captivating at the same time, the Wild Wild West.

    The problem right now is the products we have built are insanely tough to use and interact with. We are seeing massive growth and we need to onboard the bigger part of the market, the boomers.

    We will do this with the help of projects like GOGOcoin and their one-click deposits into DeFi yield farming pools.

    In this podcast we speak with the founder Garry, a gigabrain serial entrepreneur with lots of experience in fintech.

    See why we are so bullish on improving DeFi UX in this episode.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


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    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

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    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    53 min
  • DeFi by Design EP59: Building Sustainable Yields in DeFi w Impermanent Loss Protection


    The DEX space has seen a lot of changes since DeFi Summer. A lot of positive ones and some interesting experiments for sure. An OG in the DeFi space is Bancor who are working on their V3 protocol.

    Now, in this podcast we don't talk just about Bancor, we go over DEX tokenomics, the creation of proper emissions and inflation schedules, and how overall DeFi as a whole can create long-term sustainable yields.

    For all of you who are new, thereÂŽs a lot of crazy high APYs but these obviously arenÂŽt gonna be around in 1, 2 3 years. The key for us right now is just to buckle up and build long-term products.

    Learn about building long-term sustainable yields in today's podcast with Mark Richardson and Nathaniel Hindman and enjoy this one as it will shape the rest of DeFi for the coming years.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


    Website: https://therollup.co/

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    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

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    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    1 hr 4 min
  • DeFi by Design EP58: Exploring Zk-Rollups & Modular Blockchains w Syscoin


    Scaling has often been a major pain point of Ethereum, the largest smart contract platform. However, the future is going to be a hotbed of innovation as Layer 2 scaling solutions such as Arbitrum, Optimism, Metis and Boba have been on the rise.

    Today we sat down and caught up with Jagdeep Sidhu, a core developer for Syscoin and Bradley Stephenson, a Syscoin Foundation Board Member. We discussed Syscoin’s journey over the last few years and how they emphasized on identifying the direction for Syscoin and executing on it without rushing things to market. We also covered the various scaling solutions that are currently available such as zk rollups and optimistic rollups. Lastly, we dived into how despite the emergence of new and more attractive chains, Syscoin has evolved, continued to innovate and managed to stay true to their mission of becoming the scalable, suitable and secure blockchain for the future by leveraging the Bitcoin security model.

    The future is going to be a hotbed of innovation with centralized experiences and business models enhanced and made possible through decentralized infrastructures such as Syscoin that solve the scaling problem.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


    Website: https://therollup.co/

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.

    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

    Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco

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    Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh

    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    53 min
  • DeFi By Design EP57: Decongesting Ethereum through DeversiFi

    The deployment of various scaling solutions has brought us an inch closer to on boarding the next wave of users to Ethereum. Today, we spoke with Will Harborne, an Ethereum OG whose worked on scaling Ethereum for years & also the Founder of DeversiFi, a layer 2 hub for DeFi built on top of StarkX, that allows users to trade, send funds, borrow & lend all without paying gas costs from your wallet.

    We dove into what DeversiFi has been working on, their upcoming launch on StarkWare, an open permissionless, decentralized version of rollups, the DeversiFi airdrops and how we can all do our part in decongesting Ethereum.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


    Website: https://therollup.co/

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.

    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

    Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco

    Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup

    Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy

    Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh

    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    51 min
  • DeFi By Design EP56: New Era of Money Markets in DeFi


    In the past couple of months, there’s been an explosion of DeFi projects. However, integrations between protocols are lacking and the current set of financial instruments are relatively simple compared to what we see in TradFi. One of these include, variable interest rates.

    Today, we got to talk to QiDao, one of the newer DeFi primitives that introduces fixed interest rates. Compared to variable interest rates, users can hold their debt for as long as they want and only have to pay a 0.5% repayment fee. This along with their ability to accept interest-bearing tokens as collateral brings new use-cases for interest bearing stablecoins and makes the protocol stand out from others. We also got to discuss the team’s inspiration in launching QiDao, the importance of decentralizing protocols as well as how it should be a collective goal to make DeFi easier to use.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


    Website: https://therollup.co/

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.

    Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast

    Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco

    Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup

    Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy

    Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh

    The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl


    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    50 min
  • DeFi By Design EP55: Automated Risk Management w DeFi Saver


    Lending & Borrowing has always been the very roots of Decentralized Finance. Combined with a multichain world and the numerous protocols to generate yield from, tracking and managing all these positions can be a pain, especially during volatile periods.

    Today we talked with Nikola Jankovic, an Ethereum OG and the Community Manager of DeFi Saver, an advanced one-stop management dashboard for creating, managing and tracking your positions in various DeFi protocols. We discussed how DeFi Saver helps users automate certain actions such as managing a user’s portfolio during volatile market movements, how they’re trying to address various pain points, and some of the upcoming products in their pipeline.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


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    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    46 min
  • DeFi By Design EP54: Strong Vibes on Web 3 with Taylor Welch


    As you know, there is a flock of capital coming into Web3 at an astounding pace.

    This is coming from institutions, high networth individuals, retail and more.

    Why?

    Because of the VIBES. Legit, web3 has been so much fun lately and everyone can see it.

    In this episode, we speak with serial internet entrepreneur Taylor Welch who is known for his online marketing empire.

    He is now absolutely enthralled in Web3 and the vibes that come along with it. In this episode we talk about collateralizing your vibes, what Taylor is most bullish on, NFT utility, and onboarding the big players into Web3.


    đ—Șđ—Č 𝘁𝗿𝘆 đ—Œđ˜‚đ—ż 𝗯đ—Č𝘀𝘁 đ˜đ—Œ đ—œđ—żđ—Œđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—Č đ—”đ—¶đ—Žđ—”-đ—Ÿđ˜‚đ—źđ—čđ—¶đ˜đ˜†, đ—»đ—Œđ—»-đ—Żđ—¶đ—źđ˜€đ—Čđ—±, đ—Čđ—±đ˜‚đ—°đ—źđ˜đ—¶đ—Œđ—»đ—źđ—č đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ˜đ—Čđ—»đ˜ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—°đ—żđ˜†đ—œđ˜đ—Œ đ—Čđ—°đ—Œđ˜€đ˜†đ˜€đ˜đ—Čđ—ș. đ—Šđ˜‚đ—œđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜ 𝘂𝘀 đ˜„đ—”đ—¶đ—čđ—Č đ—čđ—Čđ—źđ—żđ—»đ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—șđ—Œđ—żđ—Č đ—źđ—Żđ—Œđ˜‚đ˜ đ—¶đ—șđ—œđ—Œđ—żđ˜đ—źđ—»đ˜ đ—°đ—Œđ—»đ—°đ—Čđ—œđ˜đ˜€ 𝗯𝘆 𝗰đ—čđ—¶đ—°đ—žđ—¶đ—»đ—Ž đ—źđ—»đ˜† đ—Œđ—ł đ˜đ—”đ—Č đ—čđ—¶đ—»đ—žđ˜€ 𝗯đ—Čđ—čđ—Œđ˜„ đ—łđ—Œđ—ż 𝗳𝗿đ—Čđ—Č 𝗿đ—Čđ˜€đ—Œđ˜‚đ—żđ—°đ—Č𝘀:


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    đ——đ—œđ—Šđ—–đ—Ÿđ—”đ—œđ— đ—˜đ—„: đ˜đ˜Żđ˜·đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜€đ˜łđ˜șđ˜±đ˜”đ˜°đ˜€đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜ș đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘋𝘩𝘍đ˜Ș đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜źđ˜Ž đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Ž 𝘾đ˜Șđ˜”đ˜© đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜©đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬𝘮 đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜­đ˜¶đ˜„đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 đ˜”đ˜Šđ˜€đ˜©đ˜Żđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜ąđ˜­ 𝘳đ˜Ș𝘮𝘬, đ˜©đ˜¶đ˜źđ˜ąđ˜Ż 𝘩𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź 𝘧𝘱đ˜Șđ˜­đ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜„ 𝘼𝘰𝘳𝘩. đ˜ˆđ˜” đ˜€đ˜Šđ˜łđ˜”đ˜ąđ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜±đ˜°đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž đ˜”đ˜©đ˜łđ˜°đ˜¶đ˜šđ˜©đ˜°đ˜¶đ˜” đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜©đ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜Żđ˜Šđ˜­, 𝘾𝘩 𝘼𝘱đ˜ș 𝘩𝘱𝘳𝘯 𝘱 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Ș𝘮𝘮đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘩𝘩 𝘱𝘮 𝘱 đ˜Žđ˜±đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜°đ˜łđ˜Žđ˜©đ˜Șđ˜±, đ˜Ș𝘧 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Š đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜Žđ˜Š 𝘾𝘩 𝘾đ˜Ș𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘭𝘾𝘱đ˜ș𝘮 𝘼𝘱𝘬𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜¶đ˜łđ˜Š đ˜Șđ˜” đ˜Ș𝘮 đ˜€đ˜­đ˜Šđ˜ąđ˜ł. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Žđ˜”đ˜łđ˜Șđ˜€đ˜”đ˜­đ˜ș 𝘱𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜„đ˜¶đ˜€đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭 đ˜€đ˜°đ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜” đ˜±đ˜­đ˜ąđ˜”đ˜§đ˜°đ˜łđ˜ź, đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜”đ˜©đ˜Ș𝘯𝘹 𝘾𝘩 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘩𝘳 đ˜Ș𝘮 𝘧đ˜Șđ˜Żđ˜ąđ˜Żđ˜€đ˜Ș𝘱𝘭 đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Š. 𝘞𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘩 đ˜Żđ˜°đ˜” đ˜±đ˜łđ˜°đ˜§đ˜Šđ˜Žđ˜Žđ˜Ș𝘰𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘭đ˜Șđ˜€đ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜Žđ˜Šđ˜„ đ˜ąđ˜„đ˜·đ˜Ș𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘮.

    43 min

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