The RUNEGADE Podcast

Josh Stiles and The Runner’s Guide to Not Screwing Up Your Relationships

Life is hard. Running shouldn't be. RUNEGADE helps.

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On this episode, Josh Stiles returns for a thoughtful conversation about relationships, moderation, and spiritual life. Josh brings both his background in marriage and family therapy and his long experience as a natural runner and sandal maker to the table.

We discuss how obsession can damage relationships, why listening matters more than fixing, and how running can actually become a bridge to connection instead of a wedge.

Key topics

• Josh says the first step with any obsession is not to fix the other person, but to look inward, practice a “fearless and searching moral inventory,” and consider moderation.
• He explains that good therapy begins with listening, accurate empathy, and paraphrasing, not with immediate advice.
• Running, at its best, can be a relationship builder, especially when it creates space for conversation, shared effort, and mutual enjoyment.
• Josh describes how he and his wife have long used running as a shared activity, but only because both of them genuinely enjoy it and can keep it in balance with family life.
• Josh's desire to help people move more naturally.
• The importance of being a “spirit matter hybrid” and how nature, movement, and prayer all matter in a healthy life.

• The episode closes with a practical message: accept limitations, focus on your own growth, and let healthy leadership and self-awareness improve your relationships.

• “Lord keep me humble, but be gentle.”

More Josh and Shamma Sandals:

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Embracing Aging and Finding Strength Beyond Running with Chris Ryan

Discover how to enhance longevity, strength, and recovery while aging, as Chris Ryan, former Division 1 athlete and top trainer featured on NBC Strong, shares insights on training smarter over the years.

Learn simple, effective routines for runners and non-runners alike, emphasizing the importance of strength, proper form, and surface choices to stay healthy and motivated.

Key Topics:

• The importance of training for longevity and aging well, not just aesthetics.
• How small, consistent, 10-15 minute workouts can build strength and improve health.
• Common misconceptions about aging and physical decline—truths uncovered through experience.
• Core exercises like reverse planks, calf raises, and hex bar deadlifts for runners.
• Why surface choice (trails vs pavement) impacts joint health over time.
• Strength training's role in improving running economy and preventing injury.
• The significance of proper running form—ball of the foot strike, keeping eyes ahead.
• Cross-training strategies used by elite athletes—cycling, elliptical, water running.
• The value of strength exercises for endurance athletes, including pull-ups and plyometrics.
• How to integrate fitness into busy lifestyles, especially for executives and parents.
• Personal stories: Chris’s journey from collegiate track star to fitness entrepreneur.
• The impact of strength training on mental resilience and aging gracefully.
• Practical tips for beginners: starting small, focusing on form, and enjoying the process.

Connect with Chris

• Chris Ryan Fitness Website
• Chris Ryan on YouTube: @chrisryanfitness

• Instagram: @chrisryanfitness
• LinkedIn
• Facebook

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About RUNEGADE: RUNEGADE is what happens when two ordinary friends dare to to better understand what it means to run, be a runner, to be human. We interview athletes, doctors, scientists, olympians, adventurers, elites, and every day athletes - those doers of Big Things - to help you navigate the run and life, a bit better.

"Running is just something that brings us all, it’s a shared, it’s something that’s shared between all humans. And that’s a beautiful thing" - Dean Karnazes

Listen to Dean's first appearance on Episode 26

Step back with us to 2006 (20 years ago this month)

Social media didn’t exist. Ultrarunning was still a fringe obsession. And running one marathon was, for most people, the absolute edge of human endurance.

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Just a few years earlier, on his 30th birthday, celebrating with friends, Dean Karnazes spontaneously left a San Fransisco bar and ran 30 miles through the night to Half Moon Bay - an experience that changed everything. Soon after, he quit his corporate job to fully chase his obsession with human potential.

Into that world he stepped with a challenge that sounded impossible: 50 marathons in 50 days, in 50 different states.

No one had done it. Many believed it couldn’t be done. But over 50 straight days, from Missouri to New York City, Dean ran 1,310 miles, turned skepticism into awe, and helped spark the modern endurance movement.

For longtime runners, this is a return to the moment the legend was born. For everyone discovering Dean for the first time - welcome. You’re about to meet one of the most inspiring figures in running: a man fuelled by relentless curiosity, unbreakable discipline, and a deep belief in what’s possible when you simply refuse to stop.

We time travel and go back to 2006 to experience the energy, the doubt, and the magic of the Endurance 50 - straight from Dean himself.

In this episode:

• What the running world felt like in 2006
• Dean’s place as one of the first true endurance icons
• The story behind 50 marathons in 50 days across 50 states
• Why the feat felt almost impossible at the time

• What motivated him to keep going when most people would have quit
• How his story helped bring long-distance running into the mainstream
• Why new runners today still find inspiration in his journey
• The enduring power of grit, curiosity, and belief in the impossible

Connect and Find More Dean Here:

• Instagram: @ultramarathon
• Facebook
• Dean's Website
• Ultramarathon Man: Confessions of an All Night Runner
• 50 Marathons 50 Days

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“What I love about running and what I love about the running and particularly the trail running community is how inclusive it is, or at least it can be. You can be a runner and not ever do an ultra in your life, and that doesn’t make you a lesser person or a lesser runner.” - Jacob Puzey

The Power of Community, Resilience, and Passion in Trail Running - with Jacob Puzey

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Ever wonder what it takes to be an elite trail runner, race director and community builder all at once? Join us as we explore Jacob Puzey’s inspiring journey from humble beginnings in rural America to setting world records on a treadmill, inspiring thousands through Five Peaks races, and his unwavering love for nature and community.

This episode is a testament to the idea that running is about people, passion, and purpose- no podium required.

In this episode:

• Jacob's early love for running and coming from a big, supportive family
• How a childhood in rural America shaped his connection to nature and running
• The story behind setting a 50-mile treadmill record in 2016
• Building the Five Peaks trail series as a celebration of nature, family, and community
• The importance of inclusivity and accessibility in trail running for all ages and abilities
• The mental, physical, and emotional benefits of trail running beyond competition
• Insights into maintaining a balanced, sustainable approach to racing and life
• The role of mentorship, perseverance, and mindset in transforming challenges into growth
• How community connects us across diverse backgrounds and beliefs
• Jacob’s thoughts on the future, race ambitions, and staying true to the love of the run

Connect with Jacob:

• Instagram: @jacobpuzey
• Five Peaks Series

Remember, the trail isn’t just a place to run, it’s a space to grow, connect, and inspire. Cheers to the everyday act of showing up on the trails, in life, and in community - and we're happy you're a RUNEGADE.

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The Long Run: And The Decade the Marathon Became Cool.

Ever wonder how a sport that once seemed on the fringes transformed into a global phenomenon? Or how icons like Steve Prefontaine, Frank Shorter, Joan Benoit, Grete Waitz, and Bill Rodgers, influenced not just running, but the culture and identity of a generation?

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In this episode, we dive into Martin Dugard, New York Times best-selling author's new book, The Long Run, which reveals the untold stories and powerful moments that made running what it is today - a testament to human potential, rebellion, and perseverance.

In this episode:

• The legendary counterculture of Prefontaine and his role in shaping the identity of runners
• How the 1970s initiated the running boom and its evolution across decades
• The influence of iconic figures like Joan Benoit, Greta Weitz, Frank Shorter, and Bill Rogers
• The shift from solo, rebellious runs to a collective global movement - fueled by technology, pop culture, and social change
• Surprising myths about marathon history and the quirky origins of the 26.2-mile standard
• The role of women in the rise of running and why their participation was historically underestimated

Whether you're a seasoned marathoner or just lacing up your first pair of kicks, The Long Run reminds us that running is much more than a sport - it's a mirror of life itself. It’s about showing up, pushing limits, and becoming a little better with each step.

So keep moving forward, embrace the long run, and remember - in a world of runners, it's cool to be a RUNEGADE.

Find more Martin here:

• Martin on Instagram: @authormartindugard
• Martin's Website

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"The scariest thing is making the decision to jump into it. Once you've signed up, your goal is just to get ready. It's always possible to get ready, but it's just so scary to make the decision." - Wes Plate

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Discover how Wes Plate transformed his life through running incredible 200 and 240-mile ultra marathons, turning obsession into resilience.

This episode isn’t just about endurance; it’s about breaking mental barriers, forging deep connections with places, and inspiring ordinary people to realize their extraordinary potential. If you’re thinking about upping your game or just looking for a story that proves we’re all capable of far more than we believe, this is your GPS.

In this episode:

• Wes's inspiring journey from alcohol addiction to ultra marathoner
• The mental shift: ultra distances as metaphors for life and resilience
• How running teaches us about suffering, decision-making, and persistence
• Practical insights on training smarter, not harder, with coaching and intentional practices
• The power of community, gratitude, and connection in ultra running
• Behind-the-scenes on training, gear, and filming epic race documentaries
• The courage needed to sign up for big challenges like 200-milers
• The upcoming adventures: Vol State 500K, Copper Kings, and beyond

Find more Wes and Resources here:

• Wes Plate’s YouTube Channel
• Mid Pack Elite Instagram
• Wes Plate's Website

Remember, tackling the extremes of ultra distances isn't about being superhuman - it’s about making a decision, taking small consistent steps, and refusing to give up when it gets tough. Wes teaches us that we can all much more than we believe possible.

In a world of runners, be a RUNEGADE.

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• ​Email: [email protected]
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“Foot health is the new sleep. Nobody pays attention to foot health but everything we do when we’re active depends on our contact with the ground.” - Mark Sisson

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Mark and Kyle Sisson dive deep into the overlooked importance of foot health, the pitfalls of modern footwear, and how minimalism can transform both your athletic performance and longevity.

It’s a conversation that might just make you rethink how - and what - you wear on your feet every day.

In this episode, we cover:

• The critical role of sensory input from the feet in maintaining balance, posture, and reducing injury
• How thick, cushioned shoes have contributed to foot muscle atrophy and increased injury rates
• The science behind the kinetic chain and why your feet are the foundation of overall health
• Mark’s personal story of injury caused by traditional running shoes and his evolution towards barefoot-inspired footwear
• Kyle’s journey from sports-shoe geek to founder of Peluva, a brand dedicated to foot health
• The physics of walking, running, and even golf in minimalist footwear and why it makes a difference
• How shoe design influences posture, circulation, and long-term foot health
• The innovative features of Peluva shoes that promote toe splay, independence, and circulation
• Practical tips for strengthening your feet with minimal footwear and the transformative effects seen in days and weeks

Connect with Peluva, Mark and Kyle:

• Get Peluva Here and Save
• Mark Sisson on Instagram: @marksissonprimal
• Peluva on Instagram: @wearpeluva
• Mark's New Book: Born to Walk
• Mark on X: @Mark_Sisson

Remember, foot health is the foundation of most mobility issues and a key piece of the longevity puzzle. Instead of hiding your feet in restrictive shoes, consider the power of minimalist footwear and conscious movement. After all, the way your feet feel today could determine your vitality tomorrow.

We thank Mark and Kyle for being RUNEGADEs.

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• ​Email: [email protected]
• ​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Unlocking Running Potential with Jason Fitzgerald of ⁠Strength Running ⁠⁠

Welcome to RUNEGADE - You Belong Here

Full transparency, my marathon time has plateaued. After lowering my PB from 5 hours to 3:47, I have hovered around 4 hours for over 3 years. I’m working with Jason to unlock my untapped running potential … if your story is similar, follow along as we train over the next 10 months.

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In this episode, listen and watch coaching in real-time, as Jason begins coaching Todd towards his long-term running goals - applicable to all runners.

• ​Follow Todd on Strava

Jason Fitzgerald is a 2:39 marathoner, USATF-certified coach, and founder of Strength Running. Since 2010, he has guided tens of thousands of runners to faster times and fewer injuries through smart, strength-based training. A former collegiate track athlete, Jason blends science, experience, and practicality to help athletes train better, race stronger, and stay healthy for the long haul - making him one of the most trusted voices in modern endurance running.

And he's Todd running coach: since the last week of May 2026, Jason has been focusing Todd on the long-term approach to running and racing.

Jason shares his insights on building resilience, long-term planning, pacing, and integrating strength into your routine. Good for all runners, if you're stuck at a plateau or just starting out, learn why your greatest breakthroughs often come from dropping the ego and leaning into expert advice.

In this episode:

• ​Redefining resilience and wisdom in training, not just speed
• ​Importance of long-term planning and cyclical training cycles
• ​How to approach base training: speed work, strength, and skills
• ​Pacing long and short races: the art of effort and precision
• ​The role of heart rate versus pace - when and how to use each
• ​Common pitfalls for adult runners and how to avoid them
• ​Lessons from the pros - the season before the season
• ​The personal journey from reluctant athlete to passionate coach

You also might enjoy Jason's other appearances:

• ​You Only Faster:
• ​You Faster, This Fall

Todd's pace details to help gauge your running paces and performances:

• ​Easy pace: 5:15 to 6:00/km (8:03 to 9:40/mile)
• ​Tempo: 4:20 to 4:30/km (6:58 to 7:14/mile)
• ​5km Pace: 4:00 to 4:10/km (6:26 to 6:43/mile)
• ​Mile Pace: 3:40 to 3:50/km (5:54 to 6:11/mile)
• ​Marathon Pace: 5:00 to 5:10/km (8:03 to 8:19/mile)
• ​PR: 6:11 mile, 20:30 5km, 1:37 half, 3:47 marathon, 10:59 50mile

Connect with Jason Fitzgerald:

• ​⁠⁠Strength Running⁠⁠
• ​⁠⁠⁠iTunes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ​⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠
• ​⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠
• ​X: ⁠⁠⁠@JasonFitz1⁠⁠⁠
• ​Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@jasonfitz1⁠⁠⁠

In a world of runners, be a RUNEGADE.

Keep showing up, keep asking questions, and remember - progress is a process, not a moment.

Sometimes the best step forward is just dialing in

Stay tuned for more insights, and follow along as we unlock your next level with Jason's coaching, together.

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• ​Email: [email protected]
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"For a distance like 200, you just got to break it up station to station and don't think, 'Oh my gosh, I'm running 200 miles." - Mika Thewes

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In a masterclass of endurance and unyielding resilience, Mika Thewes once again etched her name into ultrarunning lore by claiming the women’s title at the 2026 Tahoe 200, storming to second overall in an astonishing 51:10:26.

A vegan powerhouse with one of the deepest 200-mile résumés on the planet, Thewes turned the rugged Sierra Nevada single-loop into another showcase of disciplined pacing, mental fortitude, and quiet dominance, adding yet another chapter to her remarkable legacy of pushing the boundaries of what’s possible in the ultra world.

Mika is not your average ultra runner; she's a force of nature, a relentless spirit who has conquered some of the most grueling races on the planet. With over 17 races exceeding 200 miles under her belt, Mika has not only survived but thrived in the ultra-endurance world. Her accolades include winning the Bigfoot 200 twice and setting a course record on her fifth attempt, as well as standing tall on the podium as the female champion of the Tahoe 200 in 2026. Mika's journey is a testament to the power of the human spirit, showcasing her ability to push through the toughest moments with unwavering determination and grit.

But Mika's story is more than just about races and records. It's about a mindset that refuses to quit, a philosophy that every run is a chance to finish what you start. From her humble beginnings as a non-athlete to becoming an elite ultrarunner, to navigating the brutal climbs of the Tour de Geants or finding solace in the breathtaking scenery of the Alps, Mika's adventures are as much about the journey as they are about the destination. Her story is an inspiration to anyone looking to push their limits and discover what they're truly capable of.

In this episode:

• ​Mika's journey from a non-athlete to ultra legend
• ​Teaching yourself to never, ever quit during a race
• ​How top ultra runners approach fueling, gear, and plan
• ​The surprisingly meditative nature of ultra running
• ​The importance of adaptive problem-solving
• ​Naps, bivvies, and dirt naps explained
• ​The mental and physical recovery after 200 miles
• ​What's on Mika's 2026 race calendar
• ​Gear choices, playlist obsessions
• ​Finding Bigfoot and the mysteries in the wilderness

Find More Mika Here:

• ​Instagram: @sugarcrashvegan

If you’re inspired to chase giant distances, Mika’s journey reminds us that the human spirit and a well-placed mindset are sometimes more crucial than the miles or the gear. Remember: break the race into manageable pieces, fuel with what works, and always leave room for a nap. Your epic adventure starts with one small step - and the belief you won’t quit.

We thank Mika for becoming a RUNEGADE.

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• ​Email: [email protected]
• ​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ​Harvey on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altra_harvey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Unlocking the Art of Ultra Running with Ian Sharman

"There's no amount of training that will fix bad tactics and bad execution. - this book is more about how you execute better, not just how you get fitter." - Ian Sharman

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Ian Sharman is a British-American ultrarunning legend, four-time Leadville Trail 100 champion, Grand Slam of Ultrarunning record holder, and one of the most respected coaches in the sport. With over 250 marathons and ultras completed, multiple USATF 100-mile Trail National titles, and nine top-10 finishes at the Western States 100, Ian brings decades of elite racing experience and coaching wisdom.

He is the founder of Sharman Ultra Coaching and the author of the new book The Art of Ultrarunning.

Whether you run 5Ks, marathons, or 200-mile ultramarathons, these universal principles will help you run longer, smarter, avoid burnout, and actually enjoy the journey.

Main Takeaways:

• Why tactics and execution beat raw fitness in almost every race
• The simple “break your race into thirds” pacing strategy used by elites
• Why easy miles are the real secret to durability and injury prevention
• How to train for specificity and race-day execution
• Mindset shifts that turn suffering into joy and pressure into performance
• The Art of Ultrarunning — Ian's latest book on applying tactical mastery to all distances
• Sharman Ultra Coaching — Coaching services for runners seeking personalized guidance

Connect with Ian Here:

• Twitter
• Instagram
• Website

Timestamps:

00:00 - The universal truth: fast or slow, good tactics shine

02:08 - Ian’s storied career and achievements in ultrarunning

04:13 - Running to the Start Line?

07:11 - The Art of Ultrarunning08:36 - Pacing breakthrough - racing in thirds

11:26 - Why easy miles are the secret to long-term performance

13:46 - Real-world examples of pacing mistakes and lessons

15:12 - Durability and its role in race success

17:08 - Specificity in training: mimicking race terrain and effort

20:10 - Learning through experience: coaching and racing

21:56 - The three sections of the book: Training, Racing, Beyond

27:26 - Choosing stories: friends and legends

29:44 - Handling pressure and mental game in races

33:42 - The art of executing like a pro

39:39 - The legendary Bruce Fordyce’s mindset and approach

43:16 - Raceday stories: rivalries, humor, and characters

50:37 - New upcoming races and goals

58:41 - How to find Ian and team at Sharman Ultra Coaching

Final thought: Running is an art, a science, and a continual journey of learning. Whether you're throwing costumes or pacing like a maestro, the true mastery lies in how you execute your race from start to finish - and most importantly, how you enjoy the process.

So go ahead - embark on your own art of running - any distance

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Connect with Todd, Mark and Harvey:

• ​Email: [email protected]
• ​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
• ​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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