If you have trouble telling who's the guest in this episode, that's because I'm interviewing my identical twin sister, Stacy Smallwood. Our voices are so similar that even our parents have trouble telling us apart on the phone. Don't let that throw you — this is one of my favorite interviews I've ever recorded

Stacy has been an entrepreneur for nearly 13 years, and her business has weathered every kind of storm you can imagine. We talk about the actual hard stuff: surviving the 2008 crash a year and a half into building her company, navigating employee theft, and the long tail of small and large crises that nobody warns you about when you decide to go out on your own. What makes Stacy's perspective so worth hearing is that she's still here — and not just surviving, but running one of the most respected boutiques in the country. She built that by following the same principles she shares with you in this conversation.

She is hands down one of the strongest business owners I know, and I'm not just saying that because we share DNA.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

Connect with Stacy and Hampden Clothing:Website: https://www.hampdenclothing.com

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm

Feeling like your schedule is running you instead of the other way around? In this solo episode, I pull back the curtain on what I actually do every week to keep my time, my energy, and my projects from running away from me.

I walk you through the specific way I reorganize my schedule on a regular cadence — not a complicated productivity system, just a few practical moves that consistently put me back in the driver's seat. The unexpected payoff: when your schedule isn't quietly draining you, you suddenly have room for the creative work you keep saying you don't have time for. More projects, more bandwidth, more clarity — not because you added hours to the day, but because you stopped letting the existing ones leak.

If you've been feeling like your calendar is in charge of you lately, try one of these and see what shifts.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm

What if we've had it all wrong? What if we've spent too much of our lives on delayed happiness — waiting for the title, the income, the milestone, the thing — when there's actually a slice of happiness available every single day, right now, before any of that arrives?

In this episode, I push back on one of the most common assumptions women like us carry into our work: that happiness shows up as a reward for success. That if we just keep grinding, eventually we'll earn the feeling. I've come to believe the opposite is true. Everything good in your life — including the success you're working toward — actually starts with feeling good first.

I walk through what that's looked like in my own life, and how to create more daily happiness without waiting for some future version of yourself to give you permission. It's a small shift in sequence, but it changes everything downstream.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm

Wondering how to grow your brand — both your revenue and your reach? In this episode, I sit down with Dorothy Shain, a contemporary artist who has built her company, Dorothy Shain Fine Art, into a well-respected brand in just five years. The thing that makes Dorothy's story worth studying isn't only the work itself. It's how she's used collaborations to expand her audience, including partnerships with major international brands like Anthropologie.

We get into the practical mechanics of how she sets out to work with bigger brands intentionally — not waiting to be discovered, but engineering the relationships she wants to have. She walks through how those collaborations actually come to life, what she's learned about pitching herself at a bigger scale, and what most artists and founders get wrong when they're trying to grow.

Grab a pen for this one. Dorothy gives you the behind-the-scenes view most creatives never share publicly, and there's a lot worth taking notes on.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm

If you've ever thought about changing careers — or layering a side hustle on top of the life you already have — this conversation is for you. In this episode, I sit down with Kendall Carriere, an entrepreneur from New Orleans who has built a career out of staying open to the next thing.

Kendall has moved from the corporate world into owning multiple Barre3 studios, and then into building a team with Beautycounter. She leads more than 100 people on a weekly basis, and she does it with a combination of sharpness and grace that's pretty rare to watch up close. We talk about how she keeps spotting the next opportunity, what it actually feels like to step into a new chapter when the current one is going well, and how to know when an idea is worth following versus when it's just a shiny distraction.

If you're on the fence about what direction to take next — career, business, or somewhere in between — Kendall's story is the kind that gives you permission to take yourself seriously.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm

Grab a pen — this one earns its length. In this episode, I sit down with Amy Mills, and her story is one of the most compelling I've recorded so far. Amy has spent her career helping companies tell their stories in a way that actually gets noticed, and she breaks down exactly how she does it.

We get into the practical, take-notes territory: five specific things you can do to get the media to pay attention to what you're building, and the deeper craft of pitching your story so it actually lands instead of disappearing into someone's inbox. If you've ever wondered why some companies keep showing up in the press while yours stays invisible, the answer is in here — and most of it is fixable once you know what you're doing.

I'll warn you: this is the longest episode I've published. That's not an accident. There was too much good in the conversation to cut.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm

Have you ever found yourself somewhere between rock bottom and the pinnacle of your career? Not failing, not winning — just stuck in the strange middle where everything looks fine from the outside and feels deeply wrong on the inside? I have. And it happened during what people around me kept calling the most successful chapter of my career.

In this episode, I share what that period actually looked like — including all the signs I missed that I was heading in the wrong direction. I talk about my own history, how I ended up there, and the questions I wish someone had asked me at the time. We also get into something I think about a lot: how the cultural definition of a "successful" career often has very little to do with the inner experience of actually living one.

If you've been quietly suspecting that your version of "doing well" doesn't actually feel well, this episode is the start of a different conversation.

This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.

About the show:

The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.

Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm