Donald G. McNeil Jr., former NY Times Pulitzer Prize winning science and health reporter specializing in plagues, discusses the leading scientists who dismissed his inquiries into a covid's origins. Their paper "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2", solidified the idea that there was nothing to a lab leak, even as they were internally admitting there couldn't entirely dismiss the lab leak theory. McNeil, for the first time, discusses his reaction to the science, and scientists. Plus, the Georgia Trump indictment, and World Cup failure of the USWNT was stupidly blamed on their politics, but does that mean questioning their mentality is out-of-bounds?

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