Or, the one where Fiona Moss and Don Berwick tells us what they think quality improvement is.

Fiona Moss is dean, Royal Society of Medicine, and Don Berwick is president emeritus and senior fellow, Institute for Healthcare Improvement.

Don's talk and the interview with Fiona were both recorded at the International Forum on Quality and Safety in Healthcare, Gothenburg, April 2016. Watch out for the extended versions of these recordings, up next Friday.