Host Katey Rich is joined by Sean McNulty to talk about the impact of Shogun moving to the best drama series Emmy race, and why the show’s success is so thrilling even if you’re not an FX or Disney shareholder.

Then Katey talks to Under the Bridge star Lily Gladstone about her busy life post-Oscar nomination, her personal connection to the true story behind the show, and why making a comedy with Bowen Yang is a more logical step for her than you might expect.