The Sobremesa Podcast

This week we discuss the use of football as a propaganda tool under the Francisco Franco dictatorship, concentrating in particular on the cases of Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Eoghan speaks to historian Alejandro Quiroga, author of the book the book ‘Football and National Identities in Spain’.

If you like what we are producing and want more, please consider making a donation to our Buy me a coffee page. All contributions help make the podcast financially sustainable. Donate here!

In the later years of Franco’s regime, Spain was beginning to change socially, culturally, and economically. But beneath the surface of so-called “soft dictatorship” the state continued to torture, imprison, and silence those who didn’t fit its moral order and catholic ideology.

In this episode, we revisit a conversation with Sonia Cuesta Maniar, a doctoral researcher at St Antony’s College, University of Oxford, whose work examines how the Spanish state persecuted gay and trans people during the late Francoist period, turning them into public enemies that threatened the social order of the country.

We talk about how the regime used psychiatry, imprisonment, and humiliation as tools of control, and how these acts of violence were justified.

Re-released as part of our Francoism series, this episode reminds us that the dictatorship was not the “soft” authoritarianism it’s sometimes remembered as, but a system built on fear, repression, and the erasure of those who lived outside its narrow vision of Spain.

The Sobremesa Podcast is completely independent; no ads, no sponsors, just time, research, and a lot of coffee. If you enjoy what we do, consider supporting us through Buy Me a Coffee so we can keep the podcast sustainable.

Donate here!

In this episode of The Sobremesa Podcast, Alan McGuire and Eoghan Gilmartin are joined by Barcelona-based Italian journalist Tiare Gatti Mora. they discuss Spain’s relationship with Palestine and Israel.

The conversation explores the political and moral dynamics behind Spain’s arms embargo, its efforts to help stop the genocide in Gaza, and the possible calculations shaping Pedro Sánchez’s stance on Palestine. This, of course, takes into account Spain's membership of NATO, its relationship with the Trump administration and European politics.

Later they also compare Spain’s position with Italy’s response to the crisis, reflecting on how both countries’ left movements and governments have engaged with the question of solidarity.

This episode offers a deep, timely analysis of how the European left have acted, and what its limitations are, when responding to one of the biggest war crimes of our time.

If you want to help make the podcast more sustainable and help us pay for the programs we need to produce the podcast, please consider buying us a beer! The link is ⁠here

In this episode of The Sobremesa Podcast, we explore the complex and often contradictory history of Catalonia under Franco with historian Dr. Andrew Dowling.

We unpack how the Francoist regime initially crushed Catalan language and culture, only to later co-opt selective elements for its own purposes — reshaping Catalan identity under authoritarian rule.

We also examine the uncomfortable truths of the period: the early support of the Catalan upper class for the Franco regime, and how this changed in the face of growing repression and political decay.

As the dictatorship entered its final, violent phase, a surprising alliance emerged — Catalan communists and the Catholic Church working together to organise resistance and push for democratic change.

This episode is about memory, identity, collaboration, and struggle — and how Catalonia’s past continues to shape its present.

🎙️ Support The Sobremesa Podcast

We love making The Sobremesa Podcast — bringing you deep dives into Spanish politics, culture, and history with voices you might not hear elsewhere.

But here’s the truth:
We have no external funding.
We’re entirely volunteer-run — researching, writing questions, recording, editing, and promoting each episode ourselves.

Your support helps us cover the basics:
🎧 Recording platforms
🎛️ Editing software
If you value independent, grassroots media that brings Spain to a wider audience — please consider donating to our Buy us a Coffee page. Even a few euros make a real difference and keep us going.

We do this because we care — but we can’t do it alone.

Gracias siempre for listening and supporting us.

This week's guest is historian Nicolás Sesma whose book on the francoist dictatorship, ‘Ni Una, Ni Grande, Ni Libre’, was named by El País as one of the top ten books published in Spanish in 2024.

The book offers a brilliant re-telling of the four decades of the Francoist regime, placing particular emphasis on how a changing international context impacted its development. It also interrogates and dismantles many of the cliches and received truths around the dictatorship - such as its supposed transformation into a milder or softer dictatorship in its later decades.

Nicolás is Professor of Spanish History and Civilization at the Université Grenoble Alpes.

If you like what we are producing, please consider donating to out Buy Me a Coffee page: https://buymeacoffee.com/thesobremey

Ten days ago Spanish prime minister Pedro Sánchez’s Socialist Party was rocked by a major corruption scandal - when the party’s head of organization Santos Cerdan became implicated in a massive graft operation involving the Spanish construction giant Acciona.

The case has called into question Sánchez’s political judgement and credibility - in what is the most serious crisis of his seven year stint as head of government. It also brings to mind the worst crony capitalist practices that have plagued Spanish institutions for decades.

To discuss the political importance of this scandal, Alan and Eoghan are joined by Joe Haslam, professor at IE University. And please remember if you like what we are producing and want more, think about supporting us at our buy me a coffee page here: https://buymeacoffee.com/thesobremey

In this special live episode, recorded at the launch of The Last Days of Alicante, Alan McGuire is joined by Eoghan and a close audience of family and friends to discuss his debut poetry collection. The conversation explores the themes behind the book, from tracing the scars of the Spanish Civil War in modern-day Spain to the life and legacy of Miguel Hernández. With audience questions and reflections, this intimate event celebrates poetry, memory, and resistance.

You can buy a copy of the book here

It is also available on other websites and in various independent bookstores.

The publisher is Culture Matters culturematters.org.uk

If you like what we produce, and want more, please think of contributing and making the podcast sustainable going forward:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/thesobremey

In this episode, historian Pablo Sánchez León joins Alan to explore the powerful and often disturbing alliance between the Catholic Church and the Franco regime. We go beyond the conventional narrative of the Spanish Civil War to uncover how the conflict functioned as a modern Catholic holy war — framed not just as a political struggle, but as a divine crusade to purify Spain.

We discuss how anti-clerical violence was weaponised by Francoist propaganda to dehumanise Republicans as non-Spanish, even non-human, casting them as enemies of the faith rather than political opponents. Pablo explains how this fusion of religion and repression ultimately turned inward, contributing to the regime’s long-term instability.

We also look at how these narratives still shape Spain’s political memory today, and why the Church’s complicity — and later dissent — remains an unresolved part of the democratic transition.

If you like what we produce, and want more, please think of contributing and making the podcast sustainable going forward:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/thesobremey

2025 marks the 50th anniversary of the death of Francisco Franco and Sobremesa Podcast is launching a series of episodes examining in detail and from various angles Francoism and the dictatorial regime built during his 40 year rule over Spain from the end of the Civil War in 1939 to his death in 1975.

To start the series, we are delighted to be rejoined by renowned historian and biographer Paul Preston who discusses his monumental biography of Franco, offering a fascinating psychological portrait of the dictator and talking to Eoghan and Alan about the paradoxes of the Gallego’s personality.

If you like what we produce, and want more, please think of contributing and making the podcast sustainable going forward:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/thesobremey

Last Monday at around 12.30 in the afternoon, the Iberian peninsula suffered the worst blackout in Europe over the last decades as 55 million people in Spain, Portugal and parts of south-west France were left without electricity for hours. In Madrid’s metro alone, there were 150,000 people travelling on the network when the power went and they were forced to evacuate while many high-speed trains were left stranded in the middle of nowhere on a hot late April day.

To discuss the political fallout from last Monday’s national outage in more detail, Alan and I are joined by Ben Wray, a Basque based journalist whose work has appeared in Wired Magazine, Jacobin and The National.

If you like what we produce, and want more, please think of contributing and making the podcast sustainable going forward:

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/thesobremey