The Social-Engineer Podcast

Marc Ashworth is a respected IT executive with over 30 years of experience in cyber and physical security, IT/security architecture, project management, is an author and a public speaker. He is a board member of the St. Louis Chapter of InfraGard, Webster University Cyber Advisory board, Co-Founded the State of Cyber annual security conference, and a Lifetime member of FBI Citizens Academy, possessing security certifications in CISSP, CISM, CRISC, Security+ and other certifications. As the Senior Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer at First Bank, Marc currently oversees First Bank's information security, fraud, physical security, and the network services departments. He is also the 2022 Cyber Defense Magazine winner of "Top 100 CISOs in the World." [Nov 21st, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:49 – Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:15 – Marc Ashworth Intro

05:17 – What was the path that led you to InfoSec?

07:41 – Cultivating good security practices

09:31 – Learning to "scale" your security

11:22 – The value of Strategic Thinking

13:40 – It's all in the presentation

15:25 – The importance of Customer Service

18:32 – The Art of Translation

21:32 – Small Wins

24:34 – Letters to a young CISO

26:20 – Don't avoid Pen Testing!

28:11 – Adopting a "Partnership" mindset

30:30 – Long line of influence

33:40 – Book Recommendations

- We Are Legion (We Are Bob) – Dennis E. Taylor

- Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup – John Carreyrou

- The Goals Program – Zig Ziglar

- The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People – Stephen Covey

36:14 – Find Marc Ashworth online

- LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/marcashworth/

38:36 – Wrap Up

38:56 – Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Ryan McBeth. Ryan is a software architect, novelist, triathlete, and YouTuber. He makes videos on YouTube about Programming, Cybersecurity, OSINT and Military topics. Ryan spent 20 years as an anti-armor and heavy weapons infantryman with two overseas deployments. He also spent time performing C4ISR intelligence collection for various government customers and currently consults on intelligence collection and analysis methods. [Oct 9, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:22 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:40 - Ryan McBeth Intro

03:17 - Military-Grade OSINT

06:14 - Propaganda

10:16 - Emotional Triggers

12:15 - Branding as Propaganda

19:12 - Modern Propaganda

21:57 - The Power of Agency

24:22 - The Product is You!

26:56 - The Fifth Domain

29:53 - Battlefield Shaping

33:58 - A Successful Campaign

36:14 - Deceptive Image Persuasion

41:54 - Mentors

- Father

44:44 - Book Recommendations

- The Field Guide to Understanding 'Human Error' - Sidney Dekker

47:18 - Find Ryan McBeth online

- Substack: ryanmcbeth.substack.com/

- YouTube: @RyanMcBethProgramming

- Instagram: @therealryanmcbeth

- Twitter: @ryanmcbeth

- Website: ryanmcbeth.com

47:36 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing mimicry. What it is, its multiple forms, and why we do it. [Oct 2, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

01:17 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

07:45 - The Topic of the Day: Mimicry

08:04 - A Definition

09:04 - Building Relationships

10:35 - The Downside of Mimicry

12:31 - Accidental Mimicking

14:25 - A Need to Belong

17:14 - Emotional Mimicry

21:01 - Misinterpretation

23:11 - Reverse-Engineering Emotions

26:22 - 3rd Party Perspective

29:40 - Reading the Relationship

32:08 - Timing is Everything

34:58 - Fundamentals

40:17 - Wrap Up

43:06 - Next Month: Music and the Senses

43:28 - Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

References:

Aron, A., Aron, E.N., Smollan, D., 1992. Inclusion of other in the self scale and the structure of interpersonal closeness. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 63, 596–612

Bargh, J.A., Chen, M., Burrows, L., 1996. Automaticity of social behavior: direct effects of trait construct and stereotype activation on action. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 71, 230–244.

Bavelas, J.B., Black, A., Chovil, N., Lemery, C.R., Mullett, J., 1988. Form and function in motor mimicry: topographic evidence that the primary function is communicative. Human Communication Research 14, 275–299.

Bhabha, H. (1984). Of mimicry and man: The ambivalence of colonial discourse. October, 28, 125-133.

Bourgeois, P., & Hess, U. (2008). The impact of social context on mimicry. Biological psychology, 77(3), 343-352.

Chartrand, T.L., Bargh, J.A., 1999. The chameleon effect: the perception– behavior link and social interaction. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 76, 893–910.

Chartrand, T.L., Maddux, W.W., Lakin, J.L., 2005. Beyond the perception– behavior link: the ubiquitous utility and motivational moderators of nonconscious mimicry. In: Hassin, R.R., Uleman, J.S., Bargh, J.A. (Eds.), The New Unconscious. Oxford University Press, New York, NY, pp. 334–361

Dijksterhaus, A., Bargh, J.A., 2001. The perception–behavior expressway: automatic effects of social perception on social behavior. In: Zanna, M. (Ed.), Advances in Experimental Social Psychology, vol. 33. Academic Press, San Diego, CA, pp. 1–40.

Hess, U., Herrera, P., Bourgeois, P., Blairy, S., 1997. Do people mimic what they see or what they know? Facial mimicry revisited. Paper presented at the 37th Annual Meeting of the Society for Psychophysiological Research, Cape Cod, MA, October 15–19th. Hess, U., Philippot, P., Blairy, S., 1999.

Marono, A. J. (2022). The role of closeness in the relationship between nonverbal mimicry and cooperation. Lancaster University (United Kingdom).

Mimicry: facts and fiction. In: Philippot, P., Feldman, R.S. (Eds.), The Social Context of Nonverbal Behavior. Studies in Emotion and Social Interaction. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, pp. 213–241.

Van Baaren, R. B., Holland, R. W., Kawakami, K., & Van Knippenberg, A. (2004). Mimicry and prosocial behavior. Psychological science, 15(1), 71-74.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.

Today, Chris and Patrick are joined by Shane McCombs. Shane leads the ILF with more than 25 years of experience in the tech industry, including more than a decade of experience in C-level roles. He led enterprise-wide initiatives within project management, customer relationship management and acquisition, policies and procedures, process improvement, and infrastructure. Shane is also an accomplished public speaker and trainer focused on change management, professionalism, social engineering, and corporate security. In the past, he volunteered for the Autism Hope Alliance and currently donates his time to businesses and non-profits as a trusted advisor. [Sept 25, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:22 - Patrick Laverty Intro

01:31 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

06:30 - Shane McCombs Intro

07:33 - Intro Chat

09:07 - Today's Topic: How to Protect Your Kids from Online Dangers

09:51 - ILF Overview

11:19 - Can children protect themselves?

12:26 - Tips for Non-tech Savvy Parents

13:55 - Communication is Key

15:32 - Who is the bad guy?

17:06 - Rules for the Ages

20:47 - How it Happens

23:54 - The Truth of Stranger Danger

25:00 - The Long Con

27:14 - The Importance of Trust

28:28 - The Next Step

29:44 - Stability is Critical

32:27 - Stop. Block. Don't Delete!

33:59 - The Power of Belief

35:09 - ILF Updates

- ILF Videos

38:47 - Helping the ILF

43:33 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

- Patrick Laverty

- Twitter: @plaverty9

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Evan Blair. He is the General Manager for Searchlight Cyber, which brings industry leading dark web intelligence & security capabilities to the commercial and government sectors. Mr. Blair, a seasoned international cyber security executive, previously held the role of Chief Revenue Officer at the secure communications & data management firm HighSide, co-founded, led and exited the cyber security & threat intelligence firm ZeroFox and ran Accuvant's global partner solutions division. He has been a fixture on Capitol Hill, working to advance legislation and funding for Active Duty military and Veterans cyber protection as well as advanced fraud and cyber protections for the American taxpayer. Blending his cybersecurity expertise with a background in international economics, Mr. Blair helps businesses develop and launch value based cyber initiatives addressing both the concerns of the CISO and the CFO. [Sept 18, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Ryan Intro

01:26 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:39 - Evan Blair Intro

06:08 - An Opportunity That Couldn't Be Passed On

13:21 - The Dark Web: Why You Should Care

22:35 - Telegraphing the Attack

36:49 - Data for Defense

43:03 - Correlation of Actions

46:57 - Find Evan Blair Online

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/evanblair/

- Twitter: twitter.com/EvanLBlair

- Website: https://www.slcyber.io/

- Guide Book: The Practitioner's Guide To The Dark Web

48:34 - Mentors

- John Abraham

- James Foster

54:02 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Mark Raffan. Mark is an award winning negotiation trainer, speaker, podcast host, well known negotiation expert, and entrepreneur. He has coached executives and teams in some of the largest companies on the planet and has been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, Thrive Global, and Supply and Demand Chain Executive Magazine (as a 2021 pro-to-know). Additionally, Mark has appeared on dozens of podcasts, including Make it Happen Mondays, The Brutal Truth About Sales, and The Insider's Guide to Finance. [Sept 11, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:44 - Mark Raffan Intro

04:12 - The Path to Negotiation

07:20 - Top Mistakes

08:18 - Actions Follow Thoughts

12:22 - Tactic or Strategy?

14:18 - Driven by Data

16:35 - You're Gonna Get Punched in the Face

19:43 - Be Curious

24:11 - Be Better

25:46 - The Motivation

31:00 - Book Recommendations

- Theodore Roosevelt Series - Edmund Morris

- The Art of Learning - Joshua Waitzkin

- 9 Secrets to Win Deals and Influence Stakeholders – Mark Raffan

33:40 - Mentors

- Marty Park

- Mother

34:49 - Find Mark Raffan online

- LinkedIn: in/markraffan/

- Website: negotiations.ninja

- Podcast: Negotiations Ninja Podcast

35:20 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing the psychology of Con Artists. What motivates them, why people fall for them, and how you can protect yourself. [Sept 4, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:30 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

01:11 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:58 - The Topic of the Day: Con Artists

06:27 - Definition & Motivation

09:10 - The Empathy Difference

14:57 - Narcissist or Machiavellian???

20:47 - A Good (Bad) Example

22:49 - Ego & Power

24:46 - The Hacker Mindset

30:54 - Cybercrime Variants

35:29 - The Power of Trust

38:43 - Take a Second

43:55 - Wrap Up

44:18 - Next Month: Mimicry

44:33 - Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

References:

Allchin, D. (2012). Science con-artists. The american biology Teacher, 74(9), 661-666.

Benson, M.L. 1985, "Denying the guilty mind: Accounting for involvement in white collar crime", Criminology, vol. 23, pp. 583–607

Blythe, M., Petrie, H., & Clark, J. A. (2011, May). F for fake: four studies on how we fall for phish. In Proceedings of the SIGCHI conference on human factors in computing systems (pp. 3469-3478).

Cowan, L. (2014). The Psychopath: What's Love Got to Do with It?. Psychological Perspectives, 57(3), 291-311.

DSM-IV Task Force 1994, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (fourth edition), American Psychiatric Association, Washington DC

Duffield, G. M., & Grabosky, P. N. (2001). The psychology of fraud (Vol. 199). Canberra: Australian Institute of criminology.

Fisher, K. (2015). The Psychology of Fraud: What Motivates Fraudsters to Commit Crime?. Available at SSRN 2596825.

Frankel, T. (2012). The Ponzi scheme puzzle: A history and analysis of con artists and victims. Oxford University Press.

Hare, R. D. (1999). Without conscience: The disturbing world of the psychopaths among us. Guilford Press.

Konnikova, M. (2017). The confidence game: Why we fall for it... Every time. Penguin.

Krambia-Kapardis, M 2001, Enhancing the Auditor's Fraud Detection Ability: An Interdisciplinary Approach, Peter Lang, Frankfurt am Main.

Muscanell, N. L., Guadagno, R. E., & Murphy, S. (2014). Weapons of influence misused: A social influence analysis of why people fall prey to internet scams. Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 8(7), 388-396.

Teitcher, J. E., Bockting, W. O., Bauermeister, J. A., Hoefer, C. J., Miner, M. H., & Klitzman, R. L. (2015). Detecting, preventing, and responding to "fraudsters" in internet research: ethics and tradeoffs. Journal of Law, Medicine & Ethics, 43(1), 116-133.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [August 28, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:21 - Patrick Laverty Intro

00:55 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

07:20 - Intro Chat

09:11 - Todays Topic: Tips for Having Difficult Conversations

10:00 - Outline for Parents

12:10 - Map Your Terrain

16:22 - Define Your Goal

17:40 - Decide on Your Pretext

20:05 - Imagine Your Rapport Building

21:50 - Identify Potential Influence Building Techniques

28:47 - Run a Quick Manipulation Check

31:31 - Pump Up the Nonverbals

36:30 - Conduct an Authenticity Check

39:21 - Prepare for Likely Contingencies

40:48 - Solidify Gains

43:40 - Next Month: ???

44:00 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

- Patrick Laverty

- Twitter: @plaverty9

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

(Original Air Date: Sept 19, 2022)

Today we are joined by Erin Maloney. Erin earned her Bachelor of Science degree in psychology from Saint Joseph's University in Philadelphia, PA. She then earned her master's degree in social work from Widener University in Chester, PA. Erin holds a license as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. Erin has worked in the behavioral and mental health field for over 20 years. Her experience has included: case management, addiction counseling, behavioral specialty work, school based behavioral health services, and private practice. Erin has worked with a wide range of clients from young children to older adults with a variety of mental health needs.

Erin is also the Director of Wellness for the Innocent Lives Foundation. She has a strong passion for the mission of the foundation to help protect innocent children.

00:00 - Intro

00:24 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:54 - Erin Maloney Intro

04:11 - What motivated you to become a mental health expert?

06:58 - Helping the Helpers

09:26 - What is "burnout" and what does it look like?

12:35 - Tired or Exhausted?

13:26 - Where "burnout" can come from

14:12 - Burnout Prevention

15:35 - The Importance of "NO"

19:54 - How to get off the road to "burnout"

21:08 - When open communication isn't there

22:51 - The physical toll is real!

24:58 - What else can we do? (Mixing it up)

27:59 - Resources to help with burnout

31:10 - The "little things" help

32:01 - Is there anyone who helped you get to where you are?

34:35 - Book Recommendations

- The Cognitive Behavioral Workbook for Anxiety -William J. Knaus

36:53 - Find Erin Maloney online

- LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/erin-maloney-lcsw

- Email: [email protected]

37:24 - Wrap Up

37:43 - Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Andi Schmied. Andi is an urban designer and visual artist. With her installations and printed work, she explores the architectural framing of social space, and uncovers urban anomalies. These vary from areas that have deviated far from their originally planned function, utopian architectures or spaces of extreme privilege.

Schmied graduated as an urban designer from the Bartlett School of Architecture (UCL, London) and is currently a PhD candidate at Moholy Nagy University of Arts and Design. Her latest book, Private Views: A High-Rise Panorama of Manhattan won the first prize in visual arts category of the Most Beautiful Czech Books competition. Her work, among other places, has been shown from London to Vienna and everywhere in between. [August 14, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:13 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:10 - Andi Schmeid Intro

04:12 - From Design to Disruption

06:15 - Open House

09:13 - Room for the Nanny

11:28 - Casting a Long Shadow

15:38 - That's Just Your View

16:59 - It's a Man's World

19:25 - Beyond the Pictures

21:43 - Something's Gotta Change

24:35 - Earth Abides

26:48 - The Artistic Urge

27:41 - Find Andi Schmied online

- Instagram: @andischmied

- Website: andischmied.com

27:57 – Mentors

- Nicholas Boyarsky

28:58 - Book Recommendations

- Class - Paul Fussell

- Private Views - Andi Schmied

29:49 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org