The Social-Engineer Podcast

(Original Air Date: 01/10/2022)

This month Chris Hadnagy is joined by the fascinating Amy Herman. Amy is a lawyer and an art historian who uses works of art to sharpen observation, analysis, and communication skills. She developed her Art of Perception seminar in 2000 and since then has worked with the New York City Police Department, the FBI, Department of Defense, Fortune 500 companies and more. She is also a TED speaker and an author of 2 books. Her latest book, "Fixed: How to Perfect the Fine Art of Problem-Solving was just released in December of 2021.

00:00 – Intro

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

- Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/

02:39 - Amy Herman Intro

04:17 - Tell us how you got to where you are today

07:12 - How did you get to the conclusion where two different people from the same class have different needs?

10:00 - Is there an equation or secret about how an everyday person can use that skill?

13:33 - Amy's new book, "Fixed" (put full title here)

15:00 - How did you come up with the concept of this book?

18:00 - What is the hope you want for people who read this?

19:52 - How has the past 18 months changed the concepts of visual intelligence?

25:55 - Are you going to keep virtual training?

29:50 - Being more empathetic and finding common ground

32:31 - Can you explain "pertinent negative" from your book?

35:34 - Tell the story about your book cover

40:36 - Besides yours what are some of your favorite books?

- (Amy's book) Fixed.: How To Perfect The Fine Art of Problem Solving

- (Amy's book) Visual Intelligence: Sharpen Your Perception, Change Your Life

- The Boys In The Boat – Nine Americans and Their Quest for the Gold - by Daniel James Brown

43:27 - Who is your greatest mentor?

- Angela Merkel

45:15 - Guest Wrap Up

- Website: www.artfulperception.com

- Twitter: www.twitter.com/AmyhermanAOP

- Instagram: @AmyHermanAOP

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [May 22, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Patrick Laverty Intro

00:58 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

08:58 - Todays Topic: Human Hacking Book Discussion

13:52 - From "Tech" to "Storytelling"

18:51 - Experience Not Required

22:02 - The Importance of Knowing Yourself

25:43 - A Foundation in Communication

29:04 - Principles of Influence

31:32 - Leveling the Playing Field

35:35 - Elicitation Breakdown

40:22 - Understanding the Baseline

44:31 - Dress for the Job (You're Pretending to Have)

48:00 - The Forgotten Resources

49:39 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

- Patrick Laverty

- Twitter: @plaverty9

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by John Young. Like many security experts, John started out on the wrong side of the law by manipulating the AT&T phone system as a teenage phone phreak in New York City before he was scared straight by the FBI. His career started four decades ago in 1982, and by 1987 Young became the network director at McDonnell Douglas's $41.8 billion C-17 program. He eventually retired from IBM after a 30-year career in the corporate cyberwar trenches to launch his own company, CyberDef.

Regarded as one of America's top corporate cybersecurity experts and thought leaders, Young's published dozens of articles, appeared on countless podcasts, and is designing a video course for people based on his book so that they can thrive in cybersecurity. [May 15, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:53 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:51 - John Young Intro

06:41 - Scared Straight

15:38 - Imposter Syndrome

16:53 - Don't Quit Your Day Job!

22:54 - Integration is Key

28:05 - The Effect of AI on Cyber Security

32:32 - Tips to Stay Ahead

38:17 - Policies, Processes and Procedures

38:37 - Book Recommendations:

- Don't Hack! – John Young

43:22 - Find John Young Online

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-young-4aa083151/

- Website: https://cyberdef.tv

43:55 - Learn to Thrive

46:42 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Tommy Honton. Tommy is a writer and experienced designer specializing in the intersection of interactivity and narrative. He has produced work around the world for audiences of all sizes and regularly lectures about design. He is also the co-creator of the award-winning escape room Stash House. [May 8, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:22 – Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:40 - Tommy Honton Intro

04:25 - How did Escape Rooms become your career?

06:19 - The Hero of Your Journey

08:42 - Crafting a Non-Linear Narrative

15:47 - Go with the Flow

19:33 - More than Words

24:45 - I'm Not Just the President...

29:06 - Some Stranger Things

34:34 - The Florida Market and Beyond

36:22 - Who would you consider your greatest mentors?

- Marty Parker

- Sean Stewart

39:00 - Book Recommendations

- Sex at Dawn - Christopher Ryan & Cacilda Jethá

- Sapiens - Yuval Noah Harari

- Blood, Seat, and Pixels - Jason Schreier

- Press Reset - Jason Schreier

40:56 - MORTY: The Escape Room App

- Site: Morty

42:41 - Find Tommy online

- Website: tommyhonton.com

43:25 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Conspiracy theories. They will talk about what makes a Conspiracy Theory and why we believe them. [May 1, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:59 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:45 - The Topic of the Day: The TRUTH Behind Conspiracy Theories

05:54 - What is a Conspiracy Theory?

07:39 - What's the harm?

10:20 - WHY???

11:17 - Pattern Seekers

13:15 - Cognitive Closure

17:04 - The Role of Critical Thinking

19:18 - An Existential Element

20:41 - Don't Forget the Lizards!

22:35 - What about Bigfoot?

24:30 - Escapism

30:15 - Reading the Emotions

32:29 - Social Motive

33:31 - Emotions vs Critical Thinking

36:42 - Prove Me Wrong!

39:09 - The Takeaway: Empathy

40:57 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

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Adams, G., O'Brien, L. T., & Nelson, J. C. (2006). Perceptions of racism in Hurricane Katrina: A liberation psychology analysis. Analyses of Social Issues and Public Policy, 6, 215–235.

Bilewicz, M., Winiewski, M., Kofta, M., & Wójcik, A. (2013). Harmful ideas: The structure and consequences of antiSemitic beliefs in Poland. Political Psychology, 34, 821–839.

Bost, P. R., & Prunier, S. G. (2013). Rationality in conspiracy beliefs: The role of perceived motive. Psychological Reports, 113, 118–128

Crocker, J., Luhtanen, R., Broadnax, S., & Blaine, B. E. (1999). Belief in U.S. government conspiracies against Blacks among Black and White college students: Powerlessness or system blame? Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 25, 941–953.

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Douglas, K. M., & Leite, A. C. (2017). Suspicion in the workplace: Organizational conspiracy theories and workrelated outcomes. British Journal of Psychology, 108, 486–506.

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Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [April 24, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:25 - Patrick Laverty Intro

00:59 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

05:34 - Scary Little Human

07:50 - Today's Topic: The SE Framework

09:13 - Origin Story

14:15 - Social Engineering: A Complete Definition

18:03 - A Tool for Communication

19:20 - Influence is NOT Manipulation

24:15 - Code of Ethics

27:38 - Intent is Key

33:36 - Human Buffer Overflow

41:56 - Education for Everyone

43:51 - Updating When Necessary

45:14 - Next Month: Book Club

45:59 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

- Chris Hadnagy

- Twitter: @humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

- Patrick Laverty

- Twitter: @plaverty9

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Dr. Abbie Maroño. Dr. Maroño is now the Director of Education at Social-Engineer, LLC, an active member of internationally recognized research groups, and an expert consultant and advisor. Today, Chris, Ryan and Abbie will discuss the 2023 State of Vishing Report. [April 17, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:23 - Ryan Intro

01:20 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:42 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

06:55 - Topic of the Day: 2023 State of Vishing Report

08:25 - Discussing the Data Set

10:47 - Following the Trends

12:47 - Limitation of Data

13:28 - Negatives in Positives?

15:49 - Vishing: A Definition

18:10 - Understanding Vulnerabilities

19:10 - Got the Time

21:08 - Why Time of Day Matters

26:18 - Make it Personal

28:05 - Ethics are Vital!

31:34 - The Academic Dilemma

35:46 - Know Your Goal

37:04 - Vishing Trends

39:28 - Increased Understanding

41:34 - Creating Vulnerability

45:18 - Hope through Education

48:03 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Alex "Skipguru" Price. Alex is a nationally recognized expert on the Art of Skip Tracing with over 35 years of experience in the skip-tracing, FinTech and Bail Bonds industries. He is a keynote speaker and author of the Skip-Tracers National Certification Program, Florida Public Records Guide, and the Military Installations Guide. Alex is a contributor for several industry magazines and post-pandemic, has become a popular content matter expert podcast guest. Currently he is the Director of Training and Development for LocateSmarter.

He has become a highly sought-after speaker in the bail enforcement, private investigations and FinTech space. He combines old school skip-tracing methods with new age cyber-tracking technology to equip attendees with the tools that he gained through invaluable experience. Alex balances the hard facts about skips with just the right amount of humor and a touch of southern charm. Special achievements would include being the first and only Tracer ever admitted as a member to the American Recovery Association (ARA) and Time Finance Adjusters (TFA).

His most important jobs are that of a father and husband, as well as his work with the ILF (Innocent Lives Foundation). He resides in Mobile, Alabama, with his wife and two children. [April 10, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:26 – Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:05 - Alex "Skipguru" Price Intro

05:15 - What is Skip Tracing?

07:30 - Reasons for a Skiptracer

07:56 - Skip to the 80's

09:39 - What's in a name?

13:40 - 3 Types of Skips

17:46 - The Prevalence of Fraud

19:17 - The Magic Three

23:31 - Post-Covid Issues

26:31 - War Stories

31:06 - Send me a Postcard

34:48 - Cocaine Cowboys

36:42 - Who would you consider your greatest mentors?

40:30 - Book Recommendations

- How to Tell If Someone Is Lying - Gavin Stone

- Doc: A Novel - Mary Doria Russell

- Churchill: Walking with Destiny - Andrew Roberts

44:26 - Find Alex online

- LinkedIn: in/alex-skipguru-price-012b2a27/

- Facebook: groups/skipgurusTribe

- Website: locatesmarter.com

46:05 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Social Perception. We will talk about what social perception is and how our reality is shaped by it. [April 3, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:22 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

01:21 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

05:02 - The Topic of the Day: Perception is Reality

06:35 - 3 Logical Steps

08:31 - Judgement Zone

10:25 - Confirmation Bias

13:21 - Trait Influence

15:06 - Moody Blues

16:42 - Emotional Misattribution

19:49 - We are NOT Mindful

22:25 - I Second That Emotion

24:30 - Judgement Free Zone

26:13 - Guided by Perception

27:49 - Conformation Bias

29:33 - Different Approaches

33:19 - The Exposure Effect

38:22 - Accounting for Context

42:13 - Emotional Carryover

43:57 - Perception Becomes Reality

45:18 - Hope

47:08 - Next Month: Beneath the Conspiracy

47:32 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

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Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [March 27, 2023]

00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Patrick Laverty Intro

01:01 - Intro Links

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

05:02 - David Sherry Intro

07:25 - Today's Topic: How to Develop a Culture of Top-Down Security

11:42 - The Weakest Link

14:03 - It's All About the "Report"

17:37 - Culture is Everything

20:28 - Zero to Sixty!

23:27 - Make it Personal

25:55 - MVP: Most Valuable People

27:33 - Empowerment through Education

37:11 - The Chicken or the Egg?

39:32 - Book Recommendations

- Project Zero Trust - George Finney

- Race After Technology - Ruha Benjamin

- This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends - Nicole Perlroth

- The Indispensables - Patrick K. O'Donnell

43:02 - Find David Sherry Online

- Twitter: twitter.com/CISOatPrinceton

- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/davidsherry

- Website: informationsecurity.princeton.edu

44:17 - Next Month: The History of VISHING

44:43 - Wrap Up & Outro

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