The Social-Engineer Podcast

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Shame. We will talk about how shame helps us, hinders us, why some people can deal with it and why some can't. We'll also discuss various coping strategies and more. [Jan 02, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:17 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:55 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/
• Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
• Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
• CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/
• org- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:38 – The topic of the day: Shame

05:44 – Is there a positive side to shame?

07:29 – Directed by beliefs

09:02 – Cultural differences

10:14 – Shame's functionality

11:16 – Societal stigma

12:35 – How shame can hinder

16:36 – Literal shutdown

19:30 – Emotional Blunting

22:15 – Guilt vs Shame: Sense of Self

24:14 – Those who can, cope!

26:54 – When shame is a symptom

28:09 – Finding a support network

30:03 – The "core" of shame

33:45 – The road to Mindfulness

37:20 – Environmental Shame

38:34 – Horrifically fascinating

41:06 – You have to get out there!

43:00 – Tips for our younger listeners

45:25 – Remember Pen Pals?

46:44 – Wrap Up

47:39 – Outro

• social-engineer.com
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono
• LinkedIn: com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker
• LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy

References:

Burkitt, I. (2008). Social selves: Theories of self and society. Sage.

Elison, J., Pulos, S., & Lennon, R. (2006). Shame-focused coping: An empirical study of the compass of shame. Social Behavior and Personality: an international journal, 34(2), 161-168.

Garey, S. S. (1998). Long-term effects of sibling emotional and physical abuse on adult self-concept and the associated guilt and shame. United States International University.

Gilchrist, J. D., Solomon-Krakus, S., Pila, E., Crocker, P., & Sabiston, C. M. (2020). Associations between physical self-concept and anticipated guilt and shame: The moderating role of gender. Sex Roles, 83(11), 763-772.

Harper, J. M. (2011). Regulating and coping with shame. Re-constructing emotional spaces: From experience to regulation, 189-206.

Hawes, D. J., Helyer, R., Herlianto, E. C., & Willing, J. (2013). Borderline personality features and implicit shame-prone self-concept in middle childhood and early adolescence. Journal of Clinical Child & Adolescent Psychology, 42(3), 302-308.

Kinston, W. (1983). A theoretical context for shame. International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 64, 213-226.

Krüger, S., & Rustad, G. C. (2019). Coping with shame in a media-saturated society: Norwegian web-series Skam as transitional object. Television & new media, 20(1), 72-95.

Nathanson, D. L. (1987). The many faces of shame. In Partially based on a symposium held in Los Angeles, 1984 for the 137th Annual Meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.. The Guilford Press.

Rüsch, N., Lieb, K., Göttler, I., Hermann, C., Schramm, E., Richter, H., ... & Bohus, M. (2007). Shame and implicit self-concept in women with borderline personality disorder. American journal of psychiatry, 164(3), 500-508.

Scheff, T. J. (2003). Shame in self and society. Symbolic interaction, 26(2), 239-262.

Tangney, J. P. (1996). Conceptual and methodological issues in the assessment of shame and guilt. Behaviour research and therapy, 34(9), 741-754.

Taylor, P. J., McDonald, J., Smith, M., Nicholson, H., & Forrester, R. (2019). Distinguishing people with current, past, and no history of non-suicidal self-injury: Shame, social comparison, and self-concept integration. Journal of Affective Disorders, 246, 182-188.

Taylor, T. F. (2015). The influence of shame on posttrauma disorders: have we failed to see the obvious?. European journal of psychotraumatology, 6(1), 28847.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Dec 26, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:29 – Patrick Laverty Intro

01:18 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing
• Managed Email Phishing
• Adversarial Simulations
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK

• CLUTCH
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

05:04 – Todays Topic: Dumpster Diving

06:27 – Shelby Dacko Intro

08:38 – Patrick's Pizza Adventure

14:34 – Who is Shelby?

15:51 – 9 Times

19:20 – The continuing importance of OSINT

20:44 – What are some "typical" goals for a "break-in"?

22:40 – Concerns with 3rd party security

23:08 – Shelby's nighttime find

26:37 – Shelby's Trash Talk

31:02 – All the luck

33:20 – A moment in time

35:37 – Situational Awareness

38:58 – The 4th Step

41:02 – Diversity of thought

42:06 – Cut me some SLACK

44:39 – "It's more about the raccoons"

46:50 – Wrap Up & Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

• Chris Hadnagy

• Twitter: @humanhacker
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

• Patrick Laverty

• Twitter: @plaverty9
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Today our guest is Steve Orrin. Steve is a respected IT executive with over 30 years of experience in cybersecurity, solution architecture, virtualization security, and federal project management. Orrin earned a Bachelor's in Honors Research Biology from Kean University. He currently serves as a Federal Chief Technology Officer and Senior PE for Intel Corporation. He is also a key advisor and subject matter expert in the emerging technologies space, providing guidance to the Public Sector, Defense, and Intelligence communities. [Dec 19, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:55 – Intro Links:

• Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

• Managed Voice Phishing
• Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations -
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK
• CLUTCH

• innocentlivesfoundation.org

03:43 – Steve Orrin Intro

04:26 – How did a biologist become a CTO at Intel?

09:10 – The evolution of security attacks

12:22 – Humans are humans

13:18 – Higher-risk targets

13:54 – If I knew then...LISTEN!

15:09 – Speak the language

16:27 – Making limoncello out of lemons

17:36 – Check your ego

19:04 – The prerequisites

21:06 – A Self-fulfilling Prophecy of Awesome Things

22:15 – Perfection is the Enemy of Good

26:06 – Handling failure

28:12 – Culturing opportunities

30:37 – Ninja skills

32:07 – Have you had mentors in your career?

• Bruce Schneier
• David Riss

33:42 – Book Recommendations

• Good to Great – Jim Collins
• Built to Last – Jim Collins
• Applied Cryptography – Bruce Schneier

35:52 – Find Steve Orrin online

• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sorrin/

• intel.com/publicsector

37:02 – Wrap Up

37:21 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Dorie Clark helps individuals and companies get their best ideas heard in a crowded, noisy world. She has been named one of the Top 50 business thinkers in the world by Thinkers50. She was honored as the #1 Communication Coach by the Marshall Goldsmith Leading Global Coaches Awards and one of the Top 5 Communication Professionals in the World by Global Gurus.

She is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Long Game, Entrepreneurial You, Reinventing You, and Stand Out, which was named the #1 Leadership Book of the Year by Inc. magazine.

A former presidential campaign spokeswoman, Clark has been described by the New York Times as an "expert at self-reinvention and helping others make changes in their lives." She is a frequent contributor to the Harvard Business Review, and consults and speaks for clients such as Google, Yale University, and the World Bank.

She is a graduate of Harvard Divinity School, a producer of a multiple Grammy-winning jazz album, and a Broadway investor. [Dec 12, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:18 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing
• Managed Email Phishing
• Adversarial Simulations
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK

• CLUTCH
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

02:37 – Dorie Clark Intro

04:01 – How did you decide to become a leadership expert?

05:26 – Defeating the "gatekeepers"

08:06 – The benefits of Social Proof

12:34 – Has the "long game" changed in the last 10 years?

15:36 – The rise of FOMO

18:19 – Getting back to long-term thinking

19:52 – You don't have to "Take the Leap!"

25:32 – Be 2 years older with straight teeth

27:42 – Confusing "busy" with "important"

31:40 – Deciding what to be bad at

36:16 – Who do you consider your mentor?

• Marshall Goldsmith

38:31 – Book Recommendations:

• The Thursday Murder Club – Richard Osman
• Influence – Robert Cialdini
• The Long Game – Dorie Clark
• Entrepreneurial You – Dorie Clark

• Reinventing You – Dorie Clark
• Stand Out – Dorie Clark

40:28 – Find Dorie Clark online

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/dorieclark
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doriec/

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dorieclarkauthor/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dorieclark/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DorieClark
• Website: https://www.dorieclark.com

41:12 – Guest Wrap Up

41:35 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Natural born killers, or monsters in the making?

We are all curious about the origins of evil and violence. We see a story on the news and ask ourselves, how could anyone do that? So, let's dive into how. We are not going to cover specific cases and talk about specific serial killers, because you lose the science and we "celebritize" serial killers. [Dec 05, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:19 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:52 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
• Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

• Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
• CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
• innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:37 – The topic of the day: Natural born killers, or monsters in the making?

04:48 – Born this way?

08:25 – The "X" Factor

10:11 – Self-soothing

13:18 – The importance of Anxiety

14:34 – Made by the military

15:23 – You can't pick and choose

18:18 – Gag reflex

19:50 – Who's to blame?

20:59 – The "Criminal Gene" fallacy

24:39 – A happy ending

26:50 – "This isn't set in stone"

29:31 – Silver Linings

31:13 – "It's a bit of both"

32:02 – Misguided markers

35:42 – Is there prevention?

39:05 – Minority Report

41:18 – An unsupportive system

42:34 – Touch is vital!

45:26 – An interesting (NOT FUN!) quote

46:27 – Wrap Up

47:07 – The request lines are open!

47:35 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

References:

Entail, W. D. A. S. K. (2021). Are Serial Killers Born or Made?.

Johnson, B. R., & Becker, J. V. (1997). Natural born killers?: The development of the sexually sadistic serial killer. Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online, 25(3), 335-348.

Ioana, I. M. (2013). No one is born a serial killer!. Procedia-Social and Behavioral Sciences, 81, 324-328.

Mitchell, H., & Aamodt, M. G. (2005). The incidence of child abuse in serial killers. Journal of Police and Criminal Psychology, 20(1), 40-47.

Miller, L. (2014). Serial killers: I. Subtypes, patterns, and motives. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 19(1), 1-11.

Wiest, J. B. (2016). Casting cultural monsters: Representations of serial killers in US and UK news media. Howard Journal of Communications, 27(4), 327-346.

Wrangham, R. W., Wilson, M. L., & Muller, M. N. (2006). Comparative rates of violence in chimpanzees and humans. Primates, 47(1), 14-26.

Newton-Fisher, N. E., & Thompson, M. E. (2012). Comparative evolutionary perspectives on violence.

Marono, A. J., Reid, S., Yaksic, E., & Keatley, D. A. (2020). A behaviour sequence analysis of serial killers' lives: From childhood abuse to methods of murder. Psychiatry, psychology and law, 27(1), 126-137.

Marono, A., & Keatley, D. A. (2022). An investigation into the association between cannibalism and serial killers. Psychiatry, Psychology and Law, 1-12.

Entail, W. D. A. S. K. (2021). Are Serial Killers Born or Made?.

Njelesani, J., Hashemi, G., Cameron, C., Cameron, D., Richard, D., & Parnes, P. (2018). From the day they are born: a qualitative study exploring violence against children with disabilities in West Africa. BMC public health, 18(1), 1-7.

Boyle, K. (2001). What's natural about killing? Gender, copycat violence and Natural Born Killers. Journal of Gender Studies, 10(3), 311-321.

Formosa, P. (2008). The problems with evil. Contemporary Political Theory, 7(4), 395-415.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Nov 28, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:24 – Patrick Laverty Intro

00:43 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
• Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
• Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

• CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
• innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:26 – Todays Topic: How do you become a Social Engineer?

05:16 – The Art of the Conversation

05:36 – The old college try!

07:49 – It's all in the report

11:37 – OSINT: The SE Lifeblood

13:53 – How do you learn this?

16:48 – Don't rely on tools, rely on OSINT

19:14 – The APSE origin story

25:13 – It's really about communication

25:45 – Learning from DISC

29:24 – It's not all bad

30:24 – This isn't 9 to 5

33:50 – Conversation with a purpose

34:57 – Back to the reports

38:27 – APSE and beyond

43:36 – Sorry...Invite Only

45:50 – 'Tis the season

46:41 – Never stop learning

48:27 – Always different, never boring

49:32 – The next generation

51:28 – Coming up next month

52:03 – Wrap Up & Outro

• www.social-engineer.com

• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

• Chris Hadnagy

• Twitter: @humanhacker
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

• Patrick Laverty

• Twitter: @plaverty9

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

Marc Ashworth is a respected IT executive with over 30 years of experience in cyber and physical security, IT/security architecture, project management, is an author and a public speaker. He is a board member of the St. Louis Chapter of InfraGard, Webster University Cyber Advisory board, Co-Founded the State of Cyber annual security conference, and a Lifetime member of FBI Citizens Academy, possessing security certifications in CISSP, CISM, CRISC, Security+ and other certifications. As the Senior Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer at First Bank, Marc currently oversees First Bank's information security, fraud, physical security, and the network services departments. He is also the 2022 Cyber Defense Magazine winner of "Top 100 CISOs in the World." [Nov 21st, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:49 – Intro Links:

• Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

• Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
• Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
• CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

• innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:15 – Marc Ashworth Intro

05:17 – What was the path that led you to InfoSec?

07:41 – Cultivating good security practices

09:31 – Learning to "scale" your security

11:22 – The value of Strategic Thinking

13:40 – It's all in the presentation

15:25 – The importance of Customer Service

18:32 – The Art of Translation

21:32 – Small Wins

24:34 – Letters to a young CISO

26:20 – Don't avoid Pen Testing!

28:11 – Adopting a "Partnership" mindset

30:30 – Long line of influence

33:40 – Book Recommendations

• We Are Legion (We Are Bob) – Dennis E. Taylor
• Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup – John Carreyrou
• The Goals Program – Zig Ziglar
• The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People – Stephen Covey

36:14 – Find Marc Ashworth online

• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/marcashworth/

38:36 – Wrap Up

38:56 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Stephanie Paul. Stephanie is an actress, a trainer, and keynote speaker. She has over 30 years of experience in the entertainment industry and she uses that now as she coaches and trains executives, sales teams, Tedx speakers and experts of all kinds to become master communicators. She is also a proud member of EOA and on the board of the directors of the Alzheimer's Association in Orange County. She is an active member of WIB, and the Vice Chair of Young Women in Bio.

[Nov 14th, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:23 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing
• Managed Email Phishing
• Adversarial Simulations
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK

• CLUTCH
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

02:10 – Stephanie Paul Intro

02:59 – How did you go from acting to coaching communications?

06:34 – Dark Side of the Moon

08:03 – The Magic of Story

09:14 – Can anyone learn to use storytelling?

11:43 – Practice, practice, practice!

13:49 – How is storytelling used in Leadership?

16:31 – Reflecting your values

18:15 – The beauty of mistakes

21:32 – You're not born with it!

23:28 – Mentorship

28:32 – The importance of Accountability

30:10 – Make them want the banana

33:24 – Valley Girl

35:39 – Find Stephanie Paul online

• LinkedIn: in/stephaniepaulinc/
• Facebook: @StephaniePaulInc
• Website: stephaniepaulinc.com/

36:50 – Women In Leadership

37:49 – Book Recommendations:

• Be Exceptional - Joe Navarro- https://amzn.to/3E8v21I
• Conversational Intelligence – Judith Glaser - https://amzn.to/3hzy1bX
• The Magic of Story – Stephanie Paul - https://amzn.to/3UzytFP

40:55 – Who are your greatest mentors?

• Mother
• Dr. Betty Uribe

44:42 – Guest Wrap Up

45:17 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are not just going to talk about nonverbal communication at an observational level, but lay the ground work for a deeper understanding of nonverbals. Not just what certain behaviors tell us but WHY they tell us this, and where nonverbal communication originated from! [Nov 07, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:17 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

01:10 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing
• Managed Email Phishing

• Adversarial Simulations
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK
• CLUTCH
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

04:01 – The topic of the day: Nonverbal Communication

10:25 – Everything comes back to Darwin

15:25 – In Utero

18:54 – A picture speaks 1000 words

20:31 – More "nature" than "nurture"

23:20 – Cultural vs Universal Gestures

27:17 – Looking at "Intention"

32:24 – Linking Non-verbals to Intention

36:32 – The Doctor is REALLY in!

38:37 – Don't Look Up (or away!)

42:35 – Response Behavior

46:58 – Neuroception - Trust your gut!

53:48 – The Takeaway

56:04 – Man's Best Friend

57:13 – Wrap Up

58:53 – Book Recommendations

• The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals – Charles Darwin
• What Every BODY is Saying – Joe Navarro
• Bodily Communication – Michael Argyle
• The Naked Ape – Desmond Morris
• Emotions Revealed – Paul Ekman

• The Dictionary of Body Language – Joe Navarro

01:02:34 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono
• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

Select research:

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Bargh J, Chartrand T (1999) The unbearable automaticity of being. Am Psychol 54: 462–479.

Bousmalis, K., Mehu, M., & Pantic, M. (2013). Towards the automatic detection of spontaneous agreement and disagreement based on nonverbal behaviour: A survey of related cues, databases, and tools. Image and vision computing, 31(2), 203-221.

Bryant, G. A. (2020). Evolution, structure, and functions of human laughter. In The handbook of communication science and biology (pp. 63-77). Routledge.

Chakrabarty, S., Widing, R. E., & Brown, G. (2014). Selling behaviours and sales performance: the moderating and mediating effects of interpersonal mentalizing. Journal of Personal Selling & Sales Management, 34(2), 112-122.

Chen M, Bargh JA (1999) Consequences of automatic evaluation: Immediate behavioral predispositions to approach or avoid the stimulus. Pers Soc Psychol B 25: 215–224.

Demuru, E., & Giacoma, C. (2022). Interacting primates: the biological roots of human communication. Ethology Ecology & Evolution, 34(3), 201-204.

Ekman, P. (1971). Universals and cultural differences in facial expressions of emotion. In Nebraska symposium on motivation. University of Nebraska Press.

Ekman, P., & Keltner, D. (1973). Universal facial expressions of emotion. Studia Psychologica, 15(2), 140-147.

Gordon, R. A., & Druckman, D. (2018). Nonverbal behaviour as communication: Approaches, issues, and research. In The handbook of communication skills (pp. 81-134). Routledge.

Heuer, K., Rinck, M., & Becker, E. S. (2007). Avoidance of emotional facial expressions in social anxiety: The approach–avoidance task. Behaviour research and therapy, 45(12), 2990-3001.

Mathis, V., & Kenny, P. J. (2018). Neuroscience: brain mechanisms of blushing. Current Biology, 28(14), R791-R792.

Müller, P., Huang, M. X., & Bulling, A. (2018, March). Detecting low rapport during natural interactions in small groups from non-verbal behaviour. In 23rd International Conference on Intelligent User Interfaces (pp. 153-164).

Neidlinger, K., Truong, K. P., Telfair, C., Feijs, L., Dertien, E., & Evers, V. (2017, March). AWElectric: that gave me goosebumps, did you feel it too?. In Proceedings of the Eleventh International Conference on Tangible, Embedded, and Embodied Interaction (pp. 315-324).

Parr, L. A., Micheletta, J., & Waller, B. M. (2016). Nonverbal communication in primates: Observational and experimental approaches.

Pohjavaara, P., Telaranta, T., & Väisänen, E. (2003). The role of the sympathetic nervous system in anxiety: is it possible to relieve anxiety with endoscopic sympathetic block?. Nordic journal of psychiatry, 57(1), 55-60.

Reissland, N., & Austen, J. (2018). Goal directed behaviours: the development of pre-natal touch behaviours. In Reach-to-Grasp Behavior (pp. 3-17). Routledge.

Schug, J., Matsumoto, D., Horita, Y., Yamagishi, T., & Bonnet, K. (2010). Emotional expressivity as a signal of cooperation. Evolution and Human Behavior, 31(2), 87-94.

Segerstråle, U., & Molnár, P. (2018). Nonverbal communication: where nature meets culture. Routledge.

Waterson, R. H., Lander, E. S., & Wilson, R. K. (2005). Initial sequence of the chimpanzee genome and comparison with the human genome. Nature, 437(7055), 69.

White, P. (2016). Reading the Blush. Configurations, 24(3), 281-301.

Woud, M. L., Maas, J., Becker, E. S., & Rinck, M. (2013). Make the manikin move: Symbolic approach–avoidance responses affect implicit and explicit face evaluations. Journal of Cognitive Psychology, 25(6), 738-744.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Oct 24th, 2022]

00:00 – Intro

00:17 – Patrick Laverty Intro

00:58 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing
• Managed Email Phishing
• Adversarial Simulations
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK

• CLUTCH
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

03:28 – This month's dumpster dive: Great Stories

04:01 – Oceans 11 1/2: Ryan Didn't Die

05:14 – Let the testing begin!

06:36 – OSINT & Building a Pretext

10:06 – Never lose focus of your SCOPE

11:52 – Stay with the Pretext!

14:53 – Don't Drink & Shred

18:36 – Always working

19:55 – The Story Continues...

29:14 – You can't prepare for Bad Luck

35:04 – Being an advocate, not an adversary

36:46 – Not quite a clean getaway

38:40 – The value of stories

40:34 – Coming up next month

41:43 – Wrap Up & Outro

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