No Way Out

The Story Behind "No Way Out" with Ponch Rivera and Mark McGrath | Ep 29


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Have you ever wondered where the name No Way Out comes from?

After months of anticipation, we reveal the intriguing story behind our podcast's title.

Join us as we share our unforgettable adventure through the John Boyd archives, where we stumbled upon a brief called No Way Out – the working title of one of Boyd's most significant works, Conceptual Spiral.

In this captivating episode, we discuss the importance of Boyd's theories and the vital lessons we can learn from them.

With themes like uncertainty, entropy, and novelty, we explore how we must constantly adapt and evolve to survive amidst the chaos of the world.

So, if you're eager to uncover the real reason behind our podcast's name and delve into the fascinating world of John Boyd, don't miss this episode!

We also take a moment to thank the thousands of No Way Out listeners who tune in every week – we couldn't have done it without you!

As mentioned on the show, here you can access John Boyd’s Discourse on Winning and Losing.

And here you can access John Boyd’s Destruction and Creation

John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

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