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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on trumpeter and composer Wadada Leo Smith. Since the 1960s, Wadada has scored much of his music in Ankhrasmation, a visual language he invented for improvisers.

His new album, Constellations and Hemispheres, is out now, built from four different groups he recorded over five years, with lots of post production.

We talk about why his players study light and color, using the studio as an instrument like dub producers, and choosing love in a world at war.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Wadada Leo Smith's Constellations and Hemispheres)

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Dig Deeper

Artist and Album:

• Visit Wadada Leo Smith at wadadaleosmith.com
• Purchase Constellations and Hemispheres from Bandcamp or Qobuz and listen on your streaming platform of choice.

Ankhrasmation:

• Ankhrasmation: The Language Scores, 1967–2015 (The Renaissance Society)

Recordings:

• Fire Illuminations (wadadaleosmith.com)
• Luminous Axis: The Caravans of Winter and Summer, with The Hub and William Winant (Tzadik)
• Creative Music - 1 (Kabell)

People and Places:

• Bill Laswell
• Melvin Gibbs
• Bobby Naughton
• Firehouse 12, New Haven

Coverage:

• Wadada Leo Smith – Constellations And Hemispheres (Paris-Move)

From The Tonearm:

• David Katz Cuts a New Version of Dub's History
• We Are Floating in Space — Jane Ira Bloom's Jazz Odyssey

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on composer and pianist Midori Hirano.

Born in Kyoto and based in Berlin, Midori is out now with The Juniper Tree, a new score for Nietzchka Keene's 1990 film starring Björk in her first screen role.

We talk about writing without the original soundtrack in her ears, turning field recordings of birds and a waterfall into instruments, and how Pauline Oliveros and the Japanese idea of "ma" led her to strip the music down.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Midori Hirano's The Juniper Tree)

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Dig Deeper

Artist and Album:

• Visit Midori Hirano at midorihirano.com and follow on Instagram
• Purchase The Juniper Tree from Thrill Jockey or Bandcamp and listen on your streaming platform of choice.

The Film:

• The Juniper Tree (The Film Foundation)
• Björk's Movie Debut, The Juniper Tree, Is Restored and Revisited (Hyperallergic)
• Midori Hirano x The Juniper Tree (Videodroom, Film Fest Gent)
• The live soundtrack (midorihirano.com)

People and Places:

• Anna Bogutskaya (Time Out)
• Pauline Oliveros and the Center for Deep Listening
• EMS Elektronmusikstudion, Stockholm
• MimiCof, Distant Symphony, made on the SYNTHI 100 at Radio Belgrade (Karlrecords)

Coverage:

• Midori Hirano Draws Inspiration from a Classic Icelandic Film (PopMatters)

From The Tonearm:

• Inside Brüder Selke & Midori Hirano's Musical Laboratory
• Speaking the Word of the Buchla — Suzanne Ciani's Orchestral Wave
• Deep Listening, Deep Soil — Lisa Ann Schonberg's Myrmecological Music

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on saxophonist, composer, and singer Charlotte Greve.

Waterbodies, out now, is her tenth album but the first under her own name. She wrote it while expecting her daughter.

We talk about her love of '80s power ballads, what Shahzad Ismaily brought as producer, and the work deadline driven by childbirth.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Charlotte Greve's Waterbodies)

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Artist and Album:

• Visit Charlotte Greve at charlottegreve.de and follow on Instagram, YouTube, and Facebook
• Purchase Waterbodies from Bandcamp or Qobuz and listen on your streaming platform of choice.

Live:

• Waterbodies and Kaoru Watanabe's The Arch release show, Public Records, Brooklyn, October 14

Coverage:

• Charlotte Greve – Membranes (Various Small Flames)
• Charlotte Greve, Waterbodies (FEMMUSIC)

People and Places:

• Shahzad Ismaily
• Seth Manchester and Machines with Magnets (Take Magazine)
• Kaoru Watanabe, The Arch (New Amsterdam)
• John Hollenbeck (McGill University)
• Laura Veirs's Kaleidoscope Creativity Cards (Tape Op)
• Oblique Strategies

From The Tonearm:

• Caroline Davis: The Saxophone Reimagined in the Fallows
• Ghost Notes from Wyoming — Caroline Davis's 'Fallows'
• Laura Veirs Alone in the Temple of Bloom

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on author David Perlis. David grew up in Marin County and co-hosted Night People on WFMU.

His first book, Morning in Marin, is out now. It follows characters including Alan Watts, the Grateful Dead, George Lucas, Philip K. Dick and many others through America's postwar creative boom.

We talk about why he traded fiction for the true story, the letters of Gary Snyder and Alan Watts, and why young artists struggle to find a foothold in Marin today.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Bola Sete's The Kitchen Tapes, Jerry Garcia and Howard Wales's Hooteroll?, and Carlos Santana's Santana Brothers, each featuring a different song called "Morning in Marin")

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Author and Book:

• Visit David Perlis at daveperlis.substack.com and listen to Night People on WFMU
• Purchase Morning in Marin: Zen, Drugs, and Ewoks on the California Coast from Heyday or Bookshop.org

Coverage:

• The Long Reach of the "Marinaissance" (KQED Forum)
• A new book uncovers Marin's essential role in the counterculture movement (7x7)
• Kirkus review

People and Places:

• Elsa Gidlow and Druid Heights
• Alan Watts
• The ferryboat Vallejo
• Anna Halprin (Tamalpa Institute)
• Gary Snyder Papers (UC Davis Library)
• Lew Welch
• Elizabeth Terwilliger (Marin History Museum)
• Art Clokey and Gumby Dharma
• The WELL

The Three "Morning in Marin" Recordings:

• Bola Sete, The Kitchen Tapes
• Jerry Garcia and Howard Wales, Hooteroll?
• Carlos Santana, Santana Brothers

From The Tonearm:

• Jorma and Vanessa Kaukonen (Spotlight On)
• Jack Casady (Spotlight On)
• Grateful Dead, New York, NY, September 20, 1988
• Grateful Dead, New York, NY, September 13, 1991

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on trumpeter, composer, and synthesist Mark Isham. He's out now with At the Carousel Club, his first solo album in fifteen years, built around vintage analog synthesizers and a band that includes Nels Cline, Vinnie Colaiuta, and a string quartet.

We talk about where the album's title comes from, his history with David Sylvian, and what it was like hearing the finished record on vinyl after sixteen hours of sessions.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Mark Isham's At The Carousel Club)

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Artist and Album:

• Visit Mark Isham at isham.com and follow on Instagram, YouTube, and Facebook
• Purchase At the Carousel Club from the Mark Isham store, Bandcamp, or Qobuz and listen on your streaming platform of choice.

The Band:

• Nels Cline
• Vinnie Colaiuta
• Kaveh Rastegar
• Ayo Awosika
• Orchid Quartet
• Wilco

Musical References:

• Weather Report, I Sing the Body Electric
• Friedrich Gulda
• Sonny Sharrock
• Bach, Mass in B minor

Film:

• Never Cry Wolf (1983), directed by Carroll Ballard

Trumpet Players and Builders:

• Doc Severinsen
• David Monette
• Maynard Ferguson
• Arturo Sandoval
• Wynton Marsalis

Bay Area:

• Cal Tjader
• Merl Saunders
• Jon Faddis
• John Coppola

David Sylvian:

• David Sylvian
• Brilliant Trees (1984)
• Holger Czukay
• Kenny Wheeler
• Jon Hassell

Jazz Collaborators:

• Horace Silver
• Charles Lloyd

The Next Generation:

• Chief Xian aTunde Adjuah (Christian Scott)
• Keyon Harrold
• Theo Croker

From The Tonearm:

• Nels Cline: Tales of a Daunted Guitarist (The Tonearm Podcast)
• OK Bloomers — Nels Cline Finds His Happy Place

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on famed record producer Bob Ezrin.

Bob has worked with artists including Pink Floyd, KISS, Deep Purple, and countless others, though he is best known for his nearly 60-year relationship with Alice Cooper.

He's back working with The Jayhawks on their latest, Sanctuary Park, twenty-six years after their first project together.

We talk about how the reunion started with an offhand remark from Gary Louris, both men leaving the United States for Canada around the same time, and we talk a lot about the craft of record production.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are The Jayhawks - "What Led Me To This Town" and "Mr. Lincoln," Alice Cooper - "I'm Eighteen," and Tim Curry - "Sloe Gin")

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Producer:

• Bob Ezrin at Primary Wave, and his Governor General's Performing Arts Award citation
• Ezrin's production credits on AllMusic
• "It started to feel a bit too much like Europe in the 1930s" — Ezrin on leaving Nashville for Toronto, Toronto Life
• "My job was to get rid of Alice Cooper, and I did exactly the opposite" — Louder
• Ezrin on the producer's "applause meter" — Performing Songwriter

Artist and Album:

• Visit the Jayhawks at jayhawksofficial.com and follow on Instagram and Facebook
• Purchase the Jayhawks' Sanctuary Park from Bandcamp or Qobuz and listen on your streaming platform of choice.
• The Jayhawks perform songs from Sanctuary Park in The Current's studio
• "Mr. Lincoln" and the Ford's Theatre story behind it — AudioFuzz
• Review of Sanctuary Park — Americana Highways

Gary Louris:

• Visit Gary Louris at garylourismusic.com
• Gary Louris on his Canadian love story — Rolling Stone

The First Time Around:

• Smile at twenty — Albumism
• Smile credits on Discogs
• An interview with Josh Sarubin, the A&R who first sent Ezrin to Minneapolis — The Looking List

Places:

• Canterbury Music Co., Toronto, where Sanctuary Park was recorded, and the studio's closing announcement

Musical References:

• Alice Cooper at alicecooper.com, and the Killer and School's Out deluxe editions
• Kiss celebrate fifty years of Destroyer — uDiscover Music
• The Band's "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" and its history — American Songwriter
• Rosalía

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on noted reggae author David Katz.

His new book, Dub Revolution: Jamaica's Sonic Innovators and the Birth of Remix Culture, traces Jamaican music from its earliest sound systems to the 21st century.

We talk about the 1982 San Francisco night that blew David’s mind and opened his ears, the job that paid his way to London, and even the technology and tools the dub greats used.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are Lee “Scratch” Perry - "Dub Revolutions," King Tubby - "King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown," and Scientist - "Scientific" )

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Author and Book:

• Visit David Katz at davidkatzreggae.com and follow Dub Me Always on Instagram and Facebook
• Purchase Dub Revolution: Jamaica's Sonic Innovators and the Birth of Remix Culture from White Rabbit, Hachette, or Bookshop
• DJ Mag on the book's publication
• Katz's production, annotation, and compilation credits on Discogs

The Architects of Dub:

• The Strange World Of… King Tubby — The Quietus
• King Tubby's first authorised biography — The Wire
• The life of Lee "Scratch" Perry through the lens of Dennis Morris — DJ Mag
• Scientist on Bandcamp, and at length on his methods in Tape Op
• King Jammy Legacy
• U-Roy — Perfect Sound Forever
• Augustus Pablo and Rockers International

Engineers and Players:

• Hedley Jones: The Renaissance Man Who Pioneered Jamaican Soundsystem Culture — Red Bull Music Academy Daily
• Hedley Jones obituary — The Wire
• Thirteen classics from Philip Smart's HC&F Studio — LargeUp
• Remembering Joseph Hoo Kim — The Vinyl Factory
• Roy Cousins and the Royals
• Peter Chemist

Studios and Sound Systems:

• Ten essential Coxsone Dodd productions — Grammy.com
• Soul Jazz's Studio One reissue catalogue
• Channel One Studios
• Maxfield Avenue: The Story of Channel One and the Sound That Defined Roots Reggae — Bass Culture
• Stanley Motta, whose downtown Kingston appliance store was selling sound systems by 1939

Dub in Britain:

• The unsung genius of dub innovator Dennis Bovell — The Vinyl Factory; and Dennis Bovell on Bandcamp
• Dennis Bovell on The Tonearm
• Adrian Sherwood and On-U Sound
• Adrian Sherwood on The Tonearm
• Ariwa Sounds, Mad Professor's south London studio
• Dread Broadcasting Corporation
• Lepke, DBC's founder, remembered — The Wire
• Mark Lusardi

Radio and Discovery:

• Doug Wendt's Midnight Dread
• Midnight Dread #13, KTIM-FM San Rafael, March 31, 1980 — the show Katz taped off his bedside clock radio

Records Mentioned:

• Wailing Souls, Fire House Rock
• Johnny Clarke, "I Don't Want To Be A Rude Boy" — the B side is "Rude Boy Dub"

Further Reading:

• Michael E. Veal, Dub: Soundscapes and Shattered Songs in Jamaican Reggae
• Isis Semaj-Hall, the Jamaican academic Katz quotes in his introduction
• In Search of the First Dub LP — Red Bull Music Academy Daily

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on Ann Arbor krautrock band Fling ii.

I sat down with drummer and synthesist Brad Gowland, and guitarist Richard Murphy, to chat about their third album, 3, which is out now on We Are Busy Bodies. It’s six tracks cut down from hours of studio jamming.

We talk about Richard's path from ambient guitar to doom metal, Brad finding four minutes inside a fifty-minute take, and how a Magic: The Gathering card - and a commune breakup - inspired the band’s name.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Fling ii’s 3)

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Fling ii:

• Visit Fling ii on Bandcamp, where the full catalog lives
• Purchase 3 from We Are Busy Bodies, Bandcamp, or Qobuz, and listen on your streaming platform of choice.
• 2 (2024), the record that introduced Dave Van Dusen's pedal steel — Bandcamp
• The self-titled debut (2022), seven tracks from the band's first weekend at Willis Sound — Bandcamp
• The debut's 2024 vinyl reissue on Italy's Black Sweat Records, distributed by Forced Exposure

The Studio and the Label:

• Willis Sound — the converted church in Willis, Michigan where every Fling ii record has been made
• We Are Busy Bodies, the Toronto label behind 3 — and Exclaim!'s interview with founder Eric Warner on the label's first twenty years
• The label's roster on Bandcamp

Elsewhere in the Band:

• Sif, Richard Murphy's instrumental doom project, which Brad Gowland produces and programs drums for

Musical References:

• Neu!'s "Hallogallo" — the track Richard played Brad in high school, and the founding reference point for the band
• Earth's The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull (Southern Lord, 2008), the ambient half of Brad's original pitch — also on Bandcamp
• Elder, the stoner-metal band whose turn to unqualified krautrock Richard cites
• Blood Incantation's Timewave Zero, the synth record Brad keeps returning to
• Water Damage, the Austin group whose In E the live show came to resemble
• Amon Düül II, whose split from their parent commune gave the band its name
• Osees, whose cover art set the visual template

Scenes and Support:

• R. Solomon, the goth synth-pop act who shared the Ann Arbor bill
• Ryan Spencer, the Detroit DJ and producer whose new project closed the show
• New Orleans Synth Cult, the collective Richard describes playing laundromats — also on Instagram

Read More:

• RetroFuturista's August 2026 interview with Brad Gowland, on motorik, pedal steel, and recording at Willis Sound
• Fifteen Questions: Fling ii about krautrock

Elsewhere on The Tonearm:

• Suzanne Ciani: The Buchla's Orchestral Homecoming — the episode Brad name-checks at the close, and its companion article, Speaking the Word of the Buchla

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on producer and engineer Martin Bisi.

Bisi has run BC Studio out of the Gowanus section of Brooklyn since 1981, recording Sonic Youth, Swans, Herbie Hancock's "Rockit," and countless others.

We discussed his new album, Dancing On The Power Lines, his ongoing community activism, the changing landscape of New York's music scene, and so much more. It’s a good one.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Martin Bisi's Dancing On The Power Lines)

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Artist and Album:

• Visit Martin Bisi at martinbisi.com and follow on YouTube and Facebook
• Purchase Dancing On The Power Lines from Bandcamp or Qobuz and listen on your streaming platform of choice
• BC Studio — established 1981, Gowanus, Brooklyn
• Previous release: Your Ultimate Urban Fantasy EP (2024)
• BC35: The 35 Year Anniversary of BC Studio

Live:

• The Martin Bisi Ensemble plays Sure We Can recycling center in Brooklyn, Sunday, September 13, 3–7 pm

Collaborators:

• Nora Almeida — writer, performance artist, and activist who wrote about half the lyrics on the album, including "CubeSmart Sunset"
• Almeida's Last Street End in Gowanus (2021), the public artwork behind the street-end conversation
• The Last Street End of Gowanus by the Autonomous People of Gowanus — Martin Bisi Collective, on Sleeping Giant Glossolalia
• Joan Hacker (voice, synth)
• Diego Ferri (bass, baritone guitar) and Oliver Rivera Drew (drums), the Berlin chapter of Bisi's band

Gowanus:

• Voice of Gowanus — the all-volunteer group Bisi belongs to, advocating for a cleanup fully protective of human health
• Arts Gowanus — the arts advocacy organization he says conceded they hadn't thought about music
• Gowanus Dredgers Canoe Club — Lawrence Peryer's old paddling club
• Powerhouse Arts — the converted power plant at 322 Third Avenue

Venues:

• Lowlands — 543 Third Avenue, live music Mondays and Tuesdays
• Mama Tried, Brooklyn
• Max Fish, formerly of Ludlow Street

Musical References:

• Genre Is Death — the Brooklyn duo Bisi recorded at BC Studio
• Glenn Branca's Symphony No. 13 (Hallucination City) for 100 Guitars — reviewed after its June 12, 2026 performance at David Geffen Hall, conducted by Reg Bloor, the first New York performance since the 2001 premiere at World Trade Center Plaza
• Kevin Sun on The Tonearm Podcast
• Herbie Hancock, "Rockit," and Grand Mixer D.ST
• Martin Bisi: NYC Producer & Sonic Youth Engineer - Tape Op

Documentary:

• Sound and Chaos: The Story of BC Studio — directed by Sara Leavitt and Ryan C. Douglass

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This week we're putting The Tonearm's needle on tenor saxophonist Azar Lawrence.

Lawrence is a veteran of Elvin Jones and McCoy Tyner's bands and a leader of his own group, The Azar Lawrence Experience, whose new album, Turn the Music Up, arrives September 25th.

We talk about his unique relationship with Pharoah Sanders, dodging McCoy Tyner’s broken piano strings, and how the fifty years between the first and latest recordings of his own songs trace his evolution as a musician.

(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Azar Lawrence’s Turn The Music Up)

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Artist and Album:

• Visit Azar Lawrence at azarlawrence.com and follow on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube
• Turn the Music Up (Trazar Records, September 25, 2026) — artist shop
• Discography and video — Lawrence's own catalog page, as leader and sideman
• Shadow Dancing — the 1985 Riza album, reissued by Light in the Attic
• Bridge into the New Age — the 1974 Prestige debut, with cover art by his brother Vincent Collier

The Cookers:

• The Cookers — the collective he joined alongside Billy Hart, Cecil McBee, George Cables, and Eddie Henderson
• Azar Lawrence at The Cookers
• David Weiss — trumpeter and the band's organizer, who also sat in with Lawrence's group on the West Coast

Mentors and Collaborators:

• McCoy Tyner — five and a half years in the band, and the subject of the acoustic-piano argument
• Atlantis — the 1974 Tyner album recorded live at Keystone Korner with Lawrence in the group; TALE's version of the title track opens side two of the new record
• Elvin Jones — NEA Jazz Master profile of the drummer who gave Lawrence his first major gig
• Dark Magus — Miles Davis, recorded live at Carnegie Hall on March 30, 1974, the night Lawrence was called to the stage without warning
• Woody Shaw — the trumpeter from the after-hours group with George Cables, Larry Gales, and Candy Finch

Pharoah Sanders:

• Pharoah Sanders — NEA Jazz Master profile
• Karma — the 1969 Impulse! album containing "The Creator Has a Master Plan," which Lawrence covers on Turn the Music Up as a tribute
• "The Creator Has a Master Plan" — background on the Sanders–Leon Thomas composition

Los Angeles Roots:

• Pan Afrikan Peoples Arkestra — Horace Tapscott's ensemble, Lawrence's entry into the L.A. scene
• Horace Tapscott — pianist, organizer, and the Arkestra's founder
• The Lighthouse Café — the Hermosa Beach club where Lawrence first spent time around Sanders
• Concerts by the Sea — Howard Rumsey's Redondo Beach room, 1971–1985, the other place they would go to hear him

Spiritual Study:

• Alfred and Bernice Ligon — the Aquarian Book Shop and Aquarian Spiritual Center, where Lawrence studied
• Alfred Ligon obituary — on the country's oldest Black-owned bookstore, opened in 1941 and destroyed in 1992

Venues:

• Village Vanguard — where the line ran out the door for Tyner's band, and where McCoy sat in with Elvin on his birthday
• NN North Sea Jazz Festival — where Cecil McBee joined Lawrence's quintet

Teaching:

• UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music, Global Jazz Studies — where Lawrence has taught since 2024

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