There's a parallel I'm noticing between what's happening today with AI and what happened way back in 2013.

So this episode studies the early days of Snapchat, the emergence of high-fidelity prototyping tools, and answers the question “what does it look like to have agency in 2025?”

• Jack Brody (Chief Product Officer at Suno)
• Jorn van Dijk (CEO of Framer)
• Julius Tarng (Research engineer at Anthropic)
• Tuhin Kumar (Head of Design at Luma AI)
• Maheen Sohail (Gen AI at Meta)
• Meng To (Founder of Design+Code)