In today's episode, Dr. Hallowell is joined by two super talented female artists who came together to tell a story. The filmmaker, Gillie Richards, had the vision, while Rosemary Thomson, a renowned symphony orchestra conductor with ADHD had the story. What happened, though, was totally unexpected. From the challenges that Rosemary overcomes while Gillian makes discoveries of her own that she did not see coming.

Listen as the women describe their experiences working together and creating the film "Shiny Objects", along with the things they did not expect to learn or experience. Ending with Dr. Hallowell asking some questions about their experiences and opinions on their own difference and difference in general.