After unexpected loss, Ceci and Nikki find themselves not only grieving loved ones, but the deeper fracture of family itself. They reflect on growing up in a time when connection came naturally, before the FLDS disrupted relationships, rewrote family dynamics, and created years of distance that still linger today.

This conversation unpacks what it means to grieve living people, navigate reconnection as adults, and confront the quiet fear of being a burden in someone else’s life. More importantly, it becomes a call to action: to stop waiting, to reach out, and to rebuild the kind of community and family structure they once had, and still deeply crave.

The truth is simple, if we want connection, we have to create it.