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A singer-songwriter known for his lyrical acumen and plaintive harmonica style, Joe Pug has released a string of critically acclaimed albums since 2008. Additionally, Joe is the creator and host of the popular podcast The Working Songwriter. John and Joe explore what it means to be an artist, what Joe notices in the myriad conversations he has on his podcast about working artists, and a little impromptu guitar at the end.

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--- This “Enlightened” New World utopia isn’t turning out to be all it was cracked up to be. Society is disenchanting, but are the only alternatives hiding out in the hills or burying yourself in books? With an air of levity and a touch of humor, John Heers teaches how to examine the confusing New World by calling upon the mind and wisdom of oft-forgotten Old. Heavy Things, Lightly. ---

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