Larry Wilkerson and Paul Jay discuss a possible rout of the GOP, and what a desperate Trump might do before the transfer of power. If Biden wins, massive pressure is needed to make him reduce deep income inequality, or a new authoritarian threat will emerge by 2024.
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Paul Jay
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The prestigious New England Journal of Medicine, which has never taken a partisan political position before in its 208-year publication history, urged readers Thursday to vote Trump out of office for his COVID-19 response, saying his administration has, quote, taken a crisis and turned it into a tragedy. Trump told Fox News that now, quote, the gloves are off. So too, any pretense of sanity. A desperate Trump is likely to do desperate things.
Now joining us to talk about what we might expect is Lawrence Wilkerson. He's a retired United States Army colonel and former chief of staff to the United States Secretary of State Colin Powell. Larry is a distinguished adjunct professor of government and public policy at the College of William and Mary. He's a member of the National Task Force for Election Crises. Thanks very much for joining us, Larry.
Lawrence Wilkerson
Good to be with you, Paul.
Paul Jay
So, since we talked last, there's been a presidential debate. There's been a vice presidential debate. President Trump has had COVID. President Trump has been visited with a miracle cure and seems to be more loony than ever. What do you make of the status of things?
Lawrence Wilkerson
Just as you said, it is an insane moment, and I'm thinking it can get even more so, between now and November the 3rd and then after November the 3rd unless we have and this is what I'm hoping for as a member of these different political groups looking at the elections, a popular and Electoral College blowout. And I hope it's for Biden. That way I think we have less of a chance for some of this contention, maybe even blood in the streets that we're talking about and that we've simulated and seen in the simulations.
Paul Jay
So, what has changed about the simulations, if anything, as a result of the COVID situation? He seems to be recovering, although it's pretty hard to tell whether this cocktail of drugs is just sort of floated him up and there's still a big bang to come. Or maybe it actually was effective. Who knows? I mean, this disease is so hard to predict.
Lawrence Wilkerson
More than that. I think the personal situation with the president and now possibly even the vice president and certainly a lot of people around the president, the White House, I was told yesterday, is like a tomb. The West Wing in particular. People were very frightened. People are really scared to even go to work. And that includes the Secret Service, which is not the way it usually is with the Secret Service.
But I think the bigger implication in the way you asked your question for the elections is what our advisor, Dr. Michael Osterholm, has told us is probably coming. And that is a situation in October and November, possibly December that's much worse than the summer.
Paul Jay
In terms of the pandemic.