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Theron Thomas won Songwriter of the Year at the 2024 GRAMMYs. He's written songs with Doja Cat, Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj, Usher, Latto, Lizzo, Lil Durk / J. Cole, Rihanna and more. 

In this episode, he shares his formula for hit records, a theory about why people think "today's music sucks", his thoughts on a controversial Quincy Jones quote, where most songwriters are falling short, and much more. 

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