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On today’s show: After weeks of internet murmurs, Kobe Bryant’s widow Vanessa Bryant has clarified that she is, in fact, not pregnant. The vitriol thrown her way over this rumour got us thinking about what it’s like for women to grieve in public. It feels like loss doesn’t even protect you from the wrath of the internet in 2025 – so does it mean we’ve lost our last shred of decorum?

This week, Zara recommended Role Model on Zane Lowe’s show, as well as the book The Wedding People. Mich recommended Your Friends and Neighbours on Apple TV+.

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