Think Inclusive

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Jordyn Zimmerman is a passionate educator, disability advocate, and accessibility innovator. Diagnosed as autistic and denied access to augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) until age 18, Jordyn’s work centers on ensuring every learner has the tools and supports they need to thrive. Their advocacy is rooted in personal experience with segregation and inclusion, making their voice essential for building more inclusive schools.

In this episode, Jordyn Zimmerman shares their journey from segregation to meaningful inclusion in schools. The conversation covers the importance of presuming competence, the need for accessible communication, and how policy and practice must evolve to create truly inclusive communities. Jordyn also discusses their work with the Nora Project and Center for Enriched Living, and what it means to measure success beyond just placement numbers.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/designing-schools-for-belonging-jordyn-zimmerman-on-inclusion-and-aac-tools-1310/

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Meghan Ashburn is a mother of autistic twins. She's an educational consultant who is passionate about inclusion and accessibility. Meghan is the creator of Not an Autism Mom and hosts That Au-Some Book Club.

Jules Edwards is an autistic activist and parent of autistic children. She is the writer of Autistic, Typing, and works to educate the community and influence policy to promote disability justice.

Meghan Ashburn and Jules Edwards join Tim Villegas to talk about their journey from online tension to collaboration, co-authoring a book that challenges dominant narratives about autism and disability. They discuss why inclusive classrooms benefit everyone, the ethics of autism research, and the importance of learning out loud.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/disability-justice-and-inclusion-meghan-ashburn-jules-edwards-speak-out-1309/

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Madison Tevlin is an actor, advocate, and podcaster known for her breakout role in the film Champions and her viral YouTube performances. Madison’s work centers on authentic representation in media, advocating for inclusion that goes beyond disability. She is the host of the upcoming podcast 21 Questions, which celebrates identity, energy, and connection. Madison’s advocacy extends to inclusive classrooms and authentic storytelling, and she is passionate about being recognized for her personality and talents rather than her diagnosis.

In this episode, host Tim Villegas talks with Madison Tevlin about her journey as a performer and advocate. Madison shares insights from her experiences on inclusive film sets, the importance of being seen for who you are, and her vision for representation in media. The conversation explores Madison’s creative process, her new podcast 21 Questions, and her advice for educators on fostering authentic inclusion in schools. Madison’s story is a powerful reminder that the least interesting thing about a person is their diagnosis, and that true inclusion means celebrating everyone’s unique identity.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/how-madison-tevlin-redefines-disability-in-media-and-hollywood-1308/

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Dr. Jen Newton is an Associate Professor of Special Education at Ohio University and founder of Teaching is Intellectual. Jen works to re‑imagine general education as the default setting for all learners and centers belonging, access to curriculum, and accountability for systems so that inclusion is real, not just a placement.

Tim and Jen unpack what “general education” really means under IDEA: not a room, but the default setting for every learner—with supports, adaptations, and shared responsibility across a school. They clarify why “least restrictive environment” (LRE) is not a place, how ableism shows up in decisions, and what families and educators can do now to advance authentic inclusion.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/general-education-has-to-be-for-everyone-1307/

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Will Parker is an educator, author, and executive coach. Will helps school leaders build strong cultures, communication, and community through his work at Principal Matters. He’s a former principal and host of the Principal Matters podcast. Will’s work matters for inclusion because he supports educators in leading with heart and compassion, especially during challenging times.

In this episode, Tim Villegas talks with Will Parker about navigating the emotional weight of current events, the impact of political rhetoric on schools, and how educators can stay grounded in their mission to serve students. The conversation centers on leading with compassion, focusing on local action, and finding hope in everyday relationships. The episode is intentionally broad so listeners can apply the insights to many situations.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/navigating-school-leadership-in-chaotic-times-a-conversation-with-will-parker-1306/

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Brit Barron - Speaker, author, and comedian. Brit’s work explores how we stay connected in a polarized world, focusing on empathy, belonging, and liberation for all people. Brit’s book, Do You Still Talk to Grandma?, dives into cancel culture and navigating relationships with people we love but deeply disagree with. Their work matters for inclusion because it helps people build bridges in schools, communities, and families.

Brit Barron joins Tim Villegas to talk about how to get better at disagreement—without giving up your values or just being nice. They discuss why empathy isn’t weakness, how our bubbles can hurt us, and how educators can lead with compassion even when values clash. The conversation is honest, friendly, and full of practical wisdom for anyone trying to build more inclusive communities.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/how-to-talk-to-people-you-disagree-with-insights-from-brit-barron-1305/

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Jack Pearpoint: Canadian publisher, inclusion advocate, and co‑creator of person‑centered planning tools like MAPS, PATH, and Circle of Friends. Jack’s work centers on relationships and building local leadership for change so every learner belongs.

In this episode, Jack Pearpoint and Tim Villegas talk about “inclusion punk rock”—doing what’s right for learners even when systems say no. They dig into the origin of MAPS, PATH, and Circles of Support, how to keep planning deeply personal (not just an app or a checklist), and why change grows from relationships, neighborhoods, and people on the margins.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/radical-listening-how-jack-pearpoints-punk-rock-spirit-shaped-inclusive-education/

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Jennifer Gonzalez — National Board Certified Teacher and the voice behind Cult of Pedagogy. After more than a decade in classrooms, she now helps educators sharpen their craft with clear, practical guidance. Her work matters for inclusion because it centers relationships, cognitive growth, and everyday practices that make classrooms safe and welcoming for every learner.

In this conversation, Jennifer Gonzalez and host Tim Villegas talk about teaching through a turbulent political moment—putting safety first, staying grounded in real (not performative) inclusion, and finding allies at school and beyond. They share concrete moves teachers can make right now, plus where to find hope when the news feels heavy.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/navigating-political-challenges-in-education-advice-from-jennifer-gonzalez-1303/

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Cathi Davis is the principal of Ruby Bridges Elementary School in Woodinville, Washington, and the 2025 Washington State Principal of the Year. She leads a school built on the promise “we thought of you when we made this place,” designing for belonging, elevating student voice, and protecting adult collaboration so inclusive practices stick.

Principal Cathi Davis shares how Ruby Bridges Elementary purposefully designs for belonging rather than just declaring it—centering student voice, presuming competence, and building systems where every learner is a leader and belongs. She breaks down how leaders protect weekly co‑planning time, model vulnerability, and act with urgency because kids don’t get these minutes back—there are only 188 school days to invest in community.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/cathi-davis-on-creating-schools-where-every-learner-belongs-1302/

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Samuel Habib is a college student, filmmaker, and disability rights advocate. He co-directed The Ride Ahead, a documentary chronicling his transition into adulthood as a disabled person. Samuel works part-time at the Westchester Institute for Human Development and is pursuing a degree in history at Southern New Hampshire University.

Dan Habib is an Emmy-winning documentary filmmaker and longtime advocate for inclusive education. He has directed several impactful films including Including Samuel and Intelligent Lives. Dan co-directed The Ride Ahead with Samuel and has been instrumental in promoting authentic representation of disabled voices in media.

In this heartfelt episode, Tim Villegas speaks with Samuel and Dan Habib about their documentary The Ride Ahead, which explores Samuel’s journey into adulthood, the challenges of traveling with a disability, and the importance of mentorship and community. The conversation dives into storytelling, inclusive education, dating and intimacy, and the power of showing up as your full self. The episode also highlights the collaborative nature of filmmaking and the impact of authentic representation.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/the-ride-ahead-samuel-and-dan-habib/