Thinking LSAT

Thinking LSAT

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  • Moneyball in Provo (Ep. 581)

    In the game of rankings and medians, BYU makes their play with an admissions pathway where not only is an LSAT not required, taking the test can lead to your admission being rescinded. 

    Also in this episode: 

    ⬜ Can an addendum erase bad pre-med grades? 

    ⬜ What should your admissions strategy be when geographically limited in your choice of law school? 


    New York LSAC Forum

    Washington DC Law School Fair

    Philadelphia Law Fair


    0:00 Applying When Locked Local 

    19:05 No LSAT Required (or Permitted)

    35:00 Tips From Departing Demons

    46:04 Test D Question — Trading Cards

    59:03 Assumption Confusion

    1:09:20 When to Hang It Up? 

    1:18:21 Please Excuse My Pre-Med

    1:32:13 Word of the Week — minatory


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    1 hr 42 min
  • What Students Get Wrong About RC (Ep. 580)

    A Demon student posts on Reddit about skipping the third passage on Reading Comprehension. Ben and Nathan advise doing the passages in order. As the student’s LSAT ability improves, their reading and answering speed will improve with it.

    Also in this episode:

    ⬜ A Demon student shares their September LSAT score.

    ⬜ Cardozo Law accidentally sends an acceptance to every applicant.

    ⬜ Another contestant takes the stage on the Personal Statement Gong Show!


    0:00 September Score Release

    8:35 Cardozo Law Mistaken Acceptance

    11:29 Test D Question — Community center

    43:50 Suspicious Pre-Law Advice

    1:01:02 Skipping the Third RC Passage

    1:06:10 Holding Applications

    1:13:49 Personal Statement Gong Show

    1:24:00 Word of the Week — Solecism

    1:31:20 Email of the Week


    New York LSAC Forum

    Washington DC Law School Fair

    Philadelphia Law Fair

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    1 hr 33 min
  • Your Ten Point Window (Ep. 579)

    A listener asks about how to prepare on the day of her LSAT administration. She worries about underperforming her practice test scores. Ben and Nathan advise the listener to treat it like another practice test. 


    Also in this episode:

    ⬜ Diving into a study from AccessLex comparing bar passage rates and law school grades.

    ⬜ Why a student has not seen a score change in five months.

    ⬜ A four-step approach from a listener on finding the correct answer.


    0:00 Bar Passage Rate Study

    14:59 Missing 50/50 Questions

    34:07 No Score Change in 5 Months

    50:11 Test D Question — Handmade pasta

    1:07:26 Advice for Test Day

    1:17:34 Demon Hot Take

    1:24:57 Steps to the Correct Answer

    1:33:26 Word of the Week — Otiose

    1:40:20 Email of the Week


    AccessLex Study

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    1 hr 42 min
  • Two-Year JD at Harvard? (Ep. 578)

    Donors at Harvard Law are pushing the school to adopt a two-year JD program. Ben and Nathan agree. 


    Also in this episode:

    ⬜ Can you build a law school without the ABA? The University of Austin is about to try

    ⬜ Should you apply to law school now or bet on a stronger application next year?

    ⬜ What makes SMU Law tick? Ben and Nathan break down the numbers, jobs, and Dallas market


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    0:00 “Have You Applied to Other Schools”

    6:40 Two-Year JD at Harvard 

    10:58 University of Austin Law School

    21:40 Too Slow on RC

    40:19 Test D Question — Company emails

    55:48 Tips from Departing Demons

    1:05:07 Opportunity Cost of Gap Year

    1:16:52 What’s the Deal with… SMU

    1:25:37 Word of the Week — stultifying

    1:28:26 Email of the Wee

    1 hr 32 min
  • Firms Now Recruit Before 1L Grades (Ep. 577)

    A listener currently in school who can only study once or twice a week asks whether infrequent studying is worse than not studying at all. Ben and Nathan explain that intermittent studying can still be beneficial, as long as it doesn’t come at the expense of your grades. For students still in school, GPA comes first.


    Also in this episode:

    - Aaminah joins the show to talk about Crushing 1L

    - Harvard Law moves up its big law recruiting timeline 

    - Does law school prestige matter for a public interest job


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    0:00 Crushing 1L with the Demon

    8:42 Layoffs at George Washington Law

    14:45 Harvard Law School Moves Recruiting Timeline

    25:02 Test D Question — Bar Prep

    35:36 The One Question Study Plan

    40:34 Public Interest Career Goals

    49:03 Skills & Interests Resume Section

    53:47 Word of the Week — deleterious

    59:46 Email of the Week

    1 hr 3 min
  • Law Schools Are Quietly Going Broke (Ep. 576)

    A new law review article estimates the financial condition of every ABA-accredited law school. Ben and Nathan discuss how the financial model of law schools has shifted with the rise of U.S. News rankings, and how that financial burden increasingly falls on the least credentialed students.


    Also in this episode:

    - Whether you can take the LSAT too many times

    - How to study for the LSAT the week of your exam

    - If you should retake your argumentative essay


    Is Your Law School Going Broke? (Paul Campos)

    Law School Financial Data


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    0:00 Is Your Law School Going Broke?

    33:47 Ten Point Score Jump in One Month

    43:12 Too Many LSAT Attempts

    47:21 Test D Question — Cats’ meow

    1:01:13 Studying the Week of your Exam

    1:07:54 Retaking the Argumentative Essay

    1:12:50 Personal Statement Gong Show

    1:40:28 Word of the Week — obstreperous

    1:43:49 Email of the Week

    1 hr 49 min
  • Apply Broadly for Big Bucks (Ep. 575)

    A listener writes in hopes to land the best possible scholarship for a law school in New York City. Ben and Nathan's advice: cast a wide net, apply to every school in the city, and lead with your best LSAT score.

    Also in this episode:

    - August LSAT score release day celebrations from the Demon Discord

    - A student whose score hold finally got released

    - What's the Deal with... University of Georgia


    Paul Campos’s Article: Is Your Law School Going Broke: A Field Guide for Interested Parties

    Study with our Free Plan⁠

    ⁠Download our iOS app⁠

    Watch Episode 575 on YouTube

    Check out all of our “What’s the Deal With” segments

    Get caught up with our ⁠Word of the Week⁠⁠ library


    0:00 August LSAT Score Release

    15:30 Receiving a Disappointing Score 

    23:16 Test D Question — Cake Baking

    32:05 Cheating Allegations Exonerated

    41:57 Tips from Departing Demons

    49:10 Don’t Pay for Law School

    58:13 How to Bring Up RC Accuracy

    1:07:40 What's the Deal with... University of Georgia

    1:25:15 Word of the Week — pernicious

    1:28:22 Email of the Week

    1 hr 32 min
  • Big Law Feeding Frenzy (Ep. 574)

    Big law firms are extending offers to first-year law students before Christmas, pushing the recruiting timeline earlier than ever. Ben and Nathan break down what's driving the frenzy, whether it echoes the pre-2008 hiring bubble, and what it means for applicants counting on those $235K Big Law salaries.


    Also in this episode:

    - LSAC postpones removing dual-enrollment credits from applicants’ UGPAs

    - Advice from Demon students who crushed the LSAT

    - Early decision scholarships from Wake Forest Law and Emory Law


    Study with our Free Plan⁠

    ⁠Download our iOS app⁠

    Watch Episode 574 on YouTube

    Check out all of our “What’s the Deal With” segments

    Get caught up with our ⁠Word of the Week⁠⁠ library


    0:00 Update on LSAC GPA Policy

    14:28 Test D Question — Broken car

    23:54 Always Choosing Next Best Answer

    34:00 Law Firm Hiring Frenzy

    45:59 Tips from Departing Demons

    49:39 Early Decision Scholarship from Wake Forest Law

    57:49 Early Decision Email from Emory Law

    1:09:12 Word of the Week — imprecations

    1:12:08 Email of the week

    1 hr 15 min
  • The 170 Median Race (Ep. 573)

    Law schools are releasing LSAT and GPA medians for their incoming first-year classes, and the number of schools with a 170+ median has risen sharply since 2016. Ben and Nathan break down why this is happening, and why it means schools are handing out generous scholarships to applicants with high medians. Their advice: use this to your advantage.


    Also in this episode:

    - Should you apply early with a below-target LSAT score, or wait until the next cycle?

    - Switching to Demon after grinding through 1,800+ questions on another platform

    - How often should you take full-length practice tests if you're still early in your prep


    Study with our Free Plan⁠

    ⁠Download our iOS app⁠

    Watch Episode 573 on YouTube

    Check out all of our “What’s the Deal With” segments

    Get caught up with our ⁠Word of the Week⁠⁠ library


    0:00 Apply early or wait until the next cycle?

    7:48 LSAT & GPA Medians of First-Year Classes

    24:58 Thoughts from a Departed Demon

    29:21 Demon is now on Android

    31:50 Test D Question — Supergroups

    39:35 Switching to the Demon After 1,800 Questions

    51:45 How Often to Take Full PTs

    58:52 Codeswitching LR and RC

    1:03:16 Word of the week — calumniator

    1:05:50 Email of the week

    1 hr 8 min
  • 175 Is the New 173 (Ep. 572)

    LSAC has released its annual LSAT percentile table, showing how  score distributions have changed over the past three testing cycles. Ben and Nathan explain that while more test takers are earning higher scores, small changes in percentiles matter far less than the score improvement students can make. 


    Also in this episode:

    - The difference between necessary vs. sufficient questions

    - Why applying early without your best score will hurt your application

    - A tip from a student in the LSAT Demon Discord 


    ​You’re Never Early with a Bad Score, Thinking LSAT (Ep. 521)

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    0:00 Test D Question — Agamemnon's pride

    10:31 Necessary vs. Sufficient Assumption

    24:05 LSAT Percentile Changes

    30:16 Applying Early or with the Best LSAT Score

    38:24 Pearls v. Turds

    51:07 Tips from Departing Demons

    59:34 Attending a Regional Law School

    1:12:39 Word of the week — casuistry

    1:18:38 Email of the week

    1 hr 23 min

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