If shame has ever whispered that you're not enough, or made you feel like hiding parts of your story, this episode is for you. My conversation with the wise and compassionate Dr. Zoe Shaw is your gentle, firm nudge to stop letting shame call the shots in your life.

Together, we unpack the difference between guilt and shame (spoiler: one can be helpful, the other absolutely isn't). We also talk about how shame sneaks into our relationships, decisions, and identity. Dr. Zoe, a licensed psychotherapist and author. She shares powerful insight on what shame really is, where it comes from, and how we can begin to untangle it, through awareness, curiosity, movement, and grace.

We talk about what healing looks like when shame has been wrapped around us for years, and why self-forgiveness and setting healthy boundaries are essential for growth. There’s no quick fix, but there is hope.

• Shame says “I am wrong.” Guilt says “I did something wrong.” There’s a big difference.

• Shame thrives in secrecy. Naming it is the first step to healing.

• Movement matters—our bodies store emotional pain and need release too.

• Setting boundaries is not selfish, it’s self-care.

• Curiosity over condemnation leads to healing.

If you’ve been carrying shame or battling the lies it tells you, this episode is a reminder that you’re not stuck. God’s healing is real, and your healing can begin today.

Dr. Zoe Shaw is a licensed psychotherapist, speaker, and author with over 20 years of experience helping women untangle shame, co-dependency, and perfectionism. She's a mom of five (two still at home, one with special needs), a former UCLA athlete, and a bold truth-teller with a tender heart. Her passion is helping women step into the freedom and healthy love Jesus offers.

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