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In episode #110 of The Bitcoin Way Podcast, Dave Birnbaum joins to discuss the fact that AI agents prefer Bitcoin as payment methods, what this new cohort of users means for demand and adoption, and why he’s fighting for a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve in Tennessee.

You can follow Dave on X at https://x.com/contrarymo, Britebot at https://www.brite.bot/, and The Tennessee Bitcoin Alliance at https://www.tnbitcoinalliance.org/.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Guest Introduction

00:57 - Dave Returns to Talk AI + Bitcoin

01:54 - What Money Would AI Agents Choose?

07:45 - Why Agents Need Lightning & Final Settlement

12:40 - The Coasean Inversion: Do We Even Need Firms?

16:14 - AI's Dark Side: Depression, Dating Bots & Lost Connection

22:57 - Will People Marry Droids? Yes, At Scale

26:52 - Model Bias: Why Anthropic Loves Bitcoin & OpenAI Doesn't

34:37 - X402 vs L402: The Battle for Agent Payments

45:47 - The CBDC Trojan Horse & Frozen Stablecoins

48:47 - Local AI, Nano Models & the Privacy Trade-Off

01:00:24 - Tennessee's Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Act

01:14:47 - The Real Threat: Paper Bitcoin & Wall Street Dilution

01:27:42 - Where to Find Dave & Final Thoughts

01:28:58 - Outro

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