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LeeAnaca "Lee" Moore (Pacific Northwest Ballet) and Natalie Bowman (St. Louis Ballet) are the duo behind Tights Under, the popular social media account showcasing the realities of pre-professional and professional ballet life.

In this episode, Lee and Natalie get candid about their journeys from training to landing their first professional contracts. They discuss the pivotal moments that shaped their careers, including their transformative (and humbling) experiences at PNB's Professional Division program — where pointe shoes at the barre at 8:30 AM became the new normal.

The conversation covers the biggest adjustments from student to professional life, from navigating company class dynamics to finally having a "place" instead of constantly fighting for your spot. They're refreshingly honest about early career finances, the reality of needing parental support, and what it takes to make a dancer's salary work.

Lee and Natalie also share the origin story of Tights Under — how boredom backstage during Swan Lake sparked what became a brand — and what it takes to maintain their content while dancing full-time. They offer practical advice for aspiring dancers interested in building their own social media presence, emphasizing authenticity over perfection.

From memorable mentorship advice like "dance like you smell good" to their ballet Mount Rushmores, this conversation offers an honest look at what it really takes to go pro.

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